Leclerc puts the package on the ecology !!

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by Rulian » 25/09/08, 14:02

Edouard Leclerc is not at all a pioneer of ecology in the great distribution. The only thing he was a great pioneer in France was the green washing!!

As Jime says, it's just a business with a communication that sounds trendy, but if you had to sell your mother to earn more, Leclerc would be the first to do it.

There is nothing to be proud of. Leclerc, poop.
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by bham » 25/09/08, 14:04

jime wrote:I find it absurd to no longer give the bags but to sell it. We are not treating the causes of the disease but the consequences. More plastic bags will not change the incivism of people who do not respect their direct environment.


Leclerc sells bcq fewer bags than he gave before since before, remember, you took 2/3 to put your groceries and 2/3 to "dress" the small trash when returning home. So yes it is chia.t but it is precisely because of the incivism of people that we come to remove the said bags. And then there are also surely bags that come from landfills, carried by the wind.
Another solution would have been to give biodegradable bags made of natural material, but maybe it is good to force consumers to pay attention to their impact on the environment.
And then the granny tote is not so bad. :D
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by Christophe » 25/09/08, 14:21

Rulian wrote: The only thing he was a great pioneer in France was the green washing!!


Oh no! You do not know the definition of greenwashing apparently ... greenwash is to make "green" something dirty.

To say that a car is clean because it consumes 5L instead of 6L is green washing, to say that nuclear is clean energy it's green washing ...

Here is one that will make you happy: to say that industrial wind turbines are sustainable development it's green washing ... !!! Unless you consider the sustainability of development as limited to 20 or 25 years ...

But that a company like Leclerc sincerely cares (I think) of the impact of plastic bags on the environment and that it offers paid bags it's not green washing, it's sustainable development or, strictly speaking, sustainable marketing if you prefer.

I think Leclerc must have lost customers by not giving more bags at least at the start ...

2) Every time who has an advertising campaign it's the same thing: there are some smarter ones to show off. : Evil:

Not only do I not have to justify myself for the choice of my campaigns but then go see if there is less advertising elsewhere (there are green sites with consumer credit ads !!!) ...
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by jime » 25/09/08, 15:07

Well, this is not an anti ad hot either, do not get angry like that, it's just a party frenzy on the fact of not clicking ... I have no idea how the ads are chosen for arrive on a forum except with the help of google keywords, apparently it is you who chose this one and you don't like it being talked about?
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by Rulian » 25/09/08, 15:12

No need to scream! I just gave my feeling about Leclerc, free to you not to share it. And don't put yourself on the defensive, I haven't made the slightest remark on the presence of Leclerc ads on econologie.com. Fuck it will get better! If you can get a little buttery on your back, you know me enough to know that I would be more of the type to support you.

Then everything is a question of what real intentions we attribute to E Leclerc. You think it's a sincere green step on his part to do away with plastic bags. I think he smelled a good marketing stunt to do with the "green" fashion of the media and advertising (that's what green-washing), while making a timely economy in n 'having more to spend fortunes on plastic bags. I think ecology interests him when it can serve his interests, like most great business leaders of his kind.

Anyway, we have no way of really knowing what are Leclerc's motivations ... So we can't decide between them.
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by martien007 » 25/09/08, 15:14

Don't get mad!

This is your site, you do what you want with it, but since there was a heated debate a few days ago on "to buy or not in Hypermarkets", I did not quite understand why this ad appeared for Leclerc?

On the other hand you were not obliged to change the title of this subject: I had to put "Leclerc puts the package!" and not ... "on ecology".

In all the super-hyper markets, there are “organic” and “sustainable development” departments, for example.

Personally, I go to Intermarché, they have an entire "organic" section and do not distribute plastic bags or paper advertisements in mailboxes. This does not mean that I will qualify them as green.

To buy "organic" it's not complicated: you just have to pay a lot more EXPENSIVE for the products.
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by Christophe » 25/09/08, 15:21

You have the wrong target .... yes it is marketing AND THEN? Leclerc has no obligation to make such environmental actions ... and how is competition positioned in relation to that?

That's all I want to say and I find it rather positive ... that's why I will do my shopping at Leclerc ... we prefer Intermarché : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

martien007 wrote:To buy "organic" it's not complicated: you just have to pay a lot more EXPENSIVE for the products.


False ... provided you limit the intermediaries and the km traveled (organic peppers from Morocco in January ... I still have serious doubts about the ecological impact of such a product)
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by gegyx » 25/09/08, 15:33

Christophe wrote:we prefer Intermarché : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
Don't surprise me!

The foam store (Keter) ...
: Mrgreen:
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Otherwise, I found that the full of SP95 from this supermarket, lasted longer than that of others and even of Elf ...
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by martien007 » 25/09/08, 15:53

False ... provided you limit the intermediaries and the km traveled (organic peppers from Morocco in January ... I still have serious doubts about the ecological impact of such a product)


No, even local is very expensive; I have been looking at the provenance for a long time : Mrgreen: .

I know this because my wife buys it and so do I.

I listened at 14 p.m. to the health journal on FR5, they talked again about pesticides and fungicides in wine.

So I went to see the prices of organic wine on "direct sales" sites. I can tell you that it is much more expensive, even from France.

And for other organic products it's the same.

Since you are going to Intermarché, look at the prices in the organic department: for example a packet of cakes and you will see the equivalent in the department of LU, Chabrior and co. Ditto for the few vegetables they offer which are very French.

Personally, I buy organic muesli made in France without GMOs etc ... I can tell you that it is significantly more expensive than the non-organic equivalent.

NB: you can put back the Leclerc ad, I hope you did not remove it because of this discussion.
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by martien007 » 25/09/08, 15:55

gegyx =>

Otherwise, I found that the full of SP95 from this supermarket, lasted longer than that of others and even of Elf ...


maybe the pump delivers more liters than it displays.
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