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by sen-no-sen » 03/07/13, 20:19

Christophe wrote:Well the problem with us is:

a) the ground grip (not to mention the impact on the air !!)
b) limited sunshine!

In short, solar towers are like concentrated solar: this has its place in the desert or semi-arid region ...


Not necessarily, nobody seems to be well offended by the taking on the ground of highways, airports or intensive monoculture!
The gigantic peripheral greenhouses can be allocated to organic cultivation, which would not displease farmers (protection against bad weather or "pests".)
Sunshine is more than enough under our latitude if we couple solar power plants to exogenous heat sources: conventional power plants, geothermal energy, etc.).
In arid areas, vortex towers could allow the desalination of seawater while producing energy, even making rain fall and creating micro-climates.

As far as the air sector is concerned, flying over nuclear power plants is prohibited, as is flying over Paris at low altitude ....
In addition, the exponential increase in the aviation sector is likely to fall sharply soon ...
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by Ecoman » 08/07/13, 01:06

Bemol on the other hand over the life of 100 years, bof, blah at least as regards the turbines (32 tower enviromission), it will maintain, replace.

Must do this thing on a mountain in any case to minimize the cost of the tower drastically.

I have seen this at home, unfortunately there is a residential suburb below and lacks a bit of desert in fact it seems that the presence of sand is paramount.

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by moinsdewatt » 12/01/14, 21:33

Ecoman wrote: ...

I have seen this at home, unfortunately there is a residential suburb below and lacks a bit of desert in fact it seems that the presence of sand is paramount.



Abengoa will build a 110 MW concentrated solar power plant in the Atacama Desert in Chile.

Abengoa to develop South America's largest Concentrated Solar Power (CSP) plant in Chile

09/01/2014 Evwind.es

The Concentrating Solar Power (CSP) plant, which will use molten salts tower technology, will have an advanced storage system enabling it to generate electricity for up to 17.5 hours without direct solar radiation.


Abengoa, the international company that applies innovative technology solutions for sustainability in the energy and environment sectors, has been selected by the Ministry of Energy of the Chilean Government and Corfo (Corporación de Fomento de la Producción) to develop a 110 MW solar plant using tower technology with 17.5 hours of thermal energy storage using molten salts. The project will be located in the Atacama Desert, the region with the highest solar radiation concentrations in the world. It will be the first solar-thermal plant for direct electricity production in South America.


http://www.evwind.es/2014/01/09/abengoa ... hile/41300
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by Tshen99 » 07/07/14, 05:44

Solar energy is cleaner. Most importantly, it is an inexhaustible source.
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by Ahmed » 07/07/14, 09:25

It is cleaner for production, but that does not change anything downstream, during its use.

The fact that it is inexhaustible is a real drawback in our specific context: it is the current excess of energy that is our problem; the fact that we on the contrary feel it as a possible lack, only reveals our addiction to the destruction of the conditions of life on earth, of which it is the means.
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by vier986 » 18/08/14, 04:48

I had already seen this tower on the show.
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by I Citro » 18/08/14, 13:14

Ahmed wrote:The fact that it is inexhaustible is a real drawback in our specific context: it is the current excess of energy that is our problem; the fact that we on the contrary feel it as a possible lack, only reveals our addiction to the destruction of the conditions of life on earth, of which it is the means.
Especially since in the event of a major event, we could find ourselves in a worse technological situation than in the 18th century ...

Indeed, we recently escaped a gigantic Solar eruption...
Some analysts predict that in such a case only the least developed countries of the southern hemisphere would be able to continue a "normal existence", the countries of the northern hemisphere falling into chaos ...
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by Ahmed » 18/08/14, 20:02

Forgive me, Citrus, but I don't quite understand the link that you establish between the quotation of my message and your own comments.

The extreme sophistication of the functioning of our "advanced" societies makes them, indeed, extremely fragile entities vis-à-vis any hazard of a certain magnitude.
The most serious being, not the hazardous external threats against which we often can do little, but the much more serious threats, because very certain, which result from the religion of the value to which we sacrifice and destroy everything.
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by I Citro » 19/08/14, 08:33

Absolutely Ahmed.
I join you in evoking the fact that the transition to renewable energies must also be accompanied by moderation in our consumption (the hunt for waste) but also, and this is less common in people's minds, to a return to a certain simplicity technological, as soon as sophistication brings nothing but a power from the technology supplier to the consumer.

To return to the footprint of an aerosol tower and its relevance in our country, I summarize the advantages:
- creation of greenhouses in the collector
- accumulation of daytime heat used at night
- short circuit energy limiting line losses
(possibility of building the tower near a built-up area and in the absence of a river, unlike nuclear power plants).

From my point of view, these are plants that could be placed near places of life, contrary to the current trend based on individual transport by car which is a colossal waste of time and energy and a big loss quality of life ...

Similarly, we can perfectly imagine this kind of achievement with a collector built on an inclined terrain as in the photo above.
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by vier986 » 20/08/14, 09:47

vier986 wrote:I had already seen this tower on the show.

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