The large solar PV parks in the world

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by I Citro » 25/05/15, 17:46

I also find it amazing that such plants are being built in tsunami-prone countries, but I think this is a cultural issue ...

In France, we would refrain from doing them, which is not better ...

The Japanese do and remake, which allows them to learn from their mistakes ...
We, even when we do something, we give up and we forget ...
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by Did67 » 26/05/15, 10:06

Let's be very stupid:

- nuclear power plants also do not resist tsunamis (or with gold price protection), with what costs?

- there is no tsunami every year (do not confuse with typhoon)

[the first series is on ponds - "ponds": are they exposed? Not necessarily !]

- earth / roof installations, must not withstand typhoons beyond a certain strength?

- consequently, is it not more "profitable" to install such parks, and to take the risk that a tsunami does not take them away, without great danger for nature? [with an insurance as there is for many economic activities subject to risks: hail in agriculture, etc ... Is it "reasonable" to put Bordeaux in Bordeaux?]

So maybe it's just a statistical calculation ????
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by I Citro » 26/05/15, 10:35

Absolutely, it's a statistical calculation and cultural.

The Japanese do not leave their country to escape tsunamis, They take the anger of nature philosophically and rebuild when they occur.

They behave like the peasants (not to be confused with "farmers") have always done at all times by "not putting all their eggs in the same basket" and knowing that "the harvest can be destroyed" but that they will survive on other resources and "without a gesture, without a sigh to start rebuilding".
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by Leo Maximus » 27/05/15, 12:33

moinsdewatt wrote:... probably not Tsunami frombut at least in this case will not have to deal with 40 years thereafter.

The tsunamis in Japan is on the Pacific coast.

These floating PV parks are installed on freshwater reservoirs, or on dams lakes, generally at altitude or on the Inland Sea. We are very far from the Pacific coast and the tsunami risk.

The Hydrelio technology from the French company Ciel & Terre: http://www.ciel-et-terre.net/fr/hydreli ... flottante/

In the same area, it is a dam that has been covered with PV panels. It is ideally oriented south:

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Japan is covered with PV panels at the rate of 30 MW per day. Aesthetically speaking, it's a disaster:

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Link : http://www.kyocera.co.jp/news/2015/0506_yfpa.html
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by I Citro » 27/05/15, 14:41

And at this rate, it can also have serious ecological consequences such as:
- Soil erosion
- Increase of the greenhouse effect by the decrease of the albedo.
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by moinsdewatt » 27/05/15, 21:00

Leo Maximus wrote:
Japan is covered with PV panels at the rate of [b] 30 MW per day ....


Really ?
It would make 11 GW a year. It seems to me a lot.
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by A.D. 44 » 27/05/15, 21:30

Hello,

Leo Maximus wrote: Aesthetically speaking, it's a disaster:

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she looks really strange this photo ...

This is real?
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by Leo Maximus » 27/05/15, 22:39

moinsdewatt wrote:
Leo Maximus wrote:
Japan is covered with PV panels at the rate of 30 MW per day ....


Really ?
It would make 11 GW a year. It seems to me a lot.

That's a lot indeed, it's equivalent to 1 EPR every 4 at 5 weeks!
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by Leo Maximus » 27/05/15, 22:47

AD 44 wrote:... it looks really strange this photo ...

This is real?

It is under construction on an old golf course. Expected power of 92 MW.
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by hic » 28/05/15, 09:59

AD 44 wrote:Hello,
Leo Maximus wrote: Aesthetically speaking, it's a disaster:

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she looks really strange this photo ...

This is real?

Hi AD 44
Remember Fukushima.
It's an emergency installation!
At altitude for better performance

Which does not prevent that the grass can very well grow partially in the shade,
protect from heat and evaporation by panels

It's a question of motivation.
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