Vortex wind turbine towers: synthesis

[Alain Coustou]

+1 with Maloche ...

But hey, you would already need a real proto for real ... to have a chance of convincing them ... it can take years or even decades given the stakes and the inertia ...

I hope that we will not have to wait for decades, in view of the contacts currently in progress in Gironde, a department where a modular demonstrator a few tens of m high could be built.

Alain Coustou

[Christophe]

For the demonstrator yes, but in this case I was talking about putting it into production at scale 1 ...

[Flytox]

Bonjour à tous

it is true that in reinforcement of a power plant, behind the turbines, there remains a packet of calories to recover



It would suffice to replace the cooling towers

This photo shows it even better:



To make such a plume .....
A+

[Capt_Maloche]

Yes, but I think the problem is that it is precisely when there is a surplus of power to evacuate that the towers work

Can someone answer precisely or is it just to cool the water before discharging it into the river after passing through the turbines?

It seems to me that the power station turbines operate on steam

[Woodcutter]

Do we have news of Mr. Coustou and the demonstrator in Gironde?

[I Citro]

Do we have news of Mr. Coustou and the demonstrator in Gironde?

Yes, by the way!
hope it follows this thread ... otherwise we can restart it in MP or by email.

[phil53]

Without wanting to appear too pessimistic, given the behemoths to which this project is measured, it would take a miracle for it to emerge.
Technically it seems to hold up.
But then financially it is something else. It takes a lot of resources even to make a functional model.

Regarding the power plant towers to answer a question above, they are used to condense the steam from the turbines.
Part of it goes into vapor, but most of it becomes water again.
This principle is used to avoid overheating the river water.

[Capt_Maloche]

Regarding the power plant towers to answer a question above, they are used to condense the steam from the turbines.

Part of it goes into vapor, but most of it becomes water again.
This principle is used to avoid overheating the river water.

Yes, so if we associate a vortex tower to make current from this totally lost energy, the fact of condensing the steam completely would allow to recover a lot of energy while restoring a good part of the water in the river

A co-generation at a good price therefore, since installed in place of a cooling tower,
surprising then that we are looking for ways to improve the yields of power plants on primary energy which is only 2.58 for electricity against 1 for fossil fuels

This figure could be less than 2 with this type of cogeneration
and these installations would make it possible to significantly increase the available power of the power stations without having to install new ones ... AH yes I forgot, you have to make the industry work

So let's develop electric vehicles to justify this equipment, come on gentlemen!

[Woodcutter]

[..] surprising then that we are looking for ways to improve the yields of power plants on primary energy which is only 2.58 for electricity against 1 for fossil fuels [..]!

This report is the comparison between the energy "at the plant" and that at the end consumer, it also includes the losses due to the network.

[Capt_Maloche]

Yes, but network losses are not the biggest% of yield loss

I mean that we could increase the output of power plants with this type of co-generation facilities, since these towers will largely be enough of the steam totally lost at the bottom of nuclear power plants