Good evening,
you have just discovered (to put your finger on) the LDDQP: law of the last one who speaks
yves
Wind power: for or against the wind?
Re: Wind: for or against the wind?
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ignored: obamot, janic, guygadebois... air, air. We are not (yet) on Qanon Ben, if in fact
Re: Wind: for or against the wind?
The kind of topic titled:
"What to think of?"
Or
"For or against?"
Or
"In your opinion ?"
Feeds number of forums... It is incredibly effective at fighting boredom and occupying long minutes of inactivity.
The famous troll you are talking about does not exist ... It never exists and never will exist (even if I admit it., Better to avoid using that word "never" ...).
Or maybe you prefer to "believe" in fantastic stories of monsters, fairies, goblins, goblins, vampires and other characters from childish tales ... I can totally imagine it.
Apart from that ... this troll is present only in the spirit of the one who answers him ...
But it is true that it is annoying to never agree and to answer constantly as a wall that sends the baballe always as hard as it is struck!
Maybe you are also the troll troll ... His wall ...
By stopping all discussion (with himself and his ego) the fucking troll con con disappeared from itself ...
You just have to pull your baballe over the wall (or leave it behind your back) and it will not come back ...
"What to think of?"
Or
"For or against?"
Or
"In your opinion ?"
Feeds number of forums... It is incredibly effective at fighting boredom and occupying long minutes of inactivity.
The famous troll you are talking about does not exist ... It never exists and never will exist (even if I admit it., Better to avoid using that word "never" ...).
Or maybe you prefer to "believe" in fantastic stories of monsters, fairies, goblins, goblins, vampires and other characters from childish tales ... I can totally imagine it.
Apart from that ... this troll is present only in the spirit of the one who answers him ...
But it is true that it is annoying to never agree and to answer constantly as a wall that sends the baballe always as hard as it is struck!
Maybe you are also the troll troll ... His wall ...
By stopping all discussion (with himself and his ego) the fucking troll con con disappeared from itself ...
You just have to pull your baballe over the wall (or leave it behind your back) and it will not come back ...
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Re: Wind: for or against the wind?
The purpose of the game is to analyze the post of the other before answering him, to extract his or her main points and answer on the bottom to those we have chosen (or all). The technique is normally learned in high school. You have to read everything first.
But it's that the guy takes part of my own argument, to his sauce obviously.
Except that after high school there is the university that learns to dissect each sentence, each word, since each one, each one, uses semantics and therefore the meaning of the words used in agreement with its origins, the inclusion in the culture with its different forms depending on its aspects: cultural, political, religious or anti-religious, etc ... can build a real idea and not your cat porridge.It is not a matter of cutting up as Janic does, each idea in the middle of the sentences to comment on each sentence, to see each word, which then no longer have any meaning separated from each other, because it becomes quibble.
So who reminded you that to quote a part of a sentence by isolating it from its context and its entire formulation represented a deliberate deformation in order to harm the original meaning. So it's not a question of stopping at a semantic decorticating, but of rebuilding THEN the same discourse taking into account its various nuances as does the CNTRL, which I usually cite for its diversity of meaning. So who is arguing? YOU obviously!
so while we are there:
• ARGUTIE, subst. fem.
A.- Rare Ingenious, subtle reasoning:
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/argutie
Oh, yes, I totally recognize it and for you it would be more like:
2. Subtlety of pure form, marking the void of thought.
Eh yes ! That's quite right !
You see everyone can see noon at his door!
Example - Let's take the first point of this Pierre-Yves post to which Janic answers:"" A beautiful act of naive faith. "An enlightened mind would not be satisfied with such an "argument". He would cite examples of the immense nuisance he attributes to nuclear waste. Do you have any examples? It would show that these nuisances are worse than the damage from hurricanes, droughts, fires, etc. This damage is in all the papers, I do not need to recall it. "
Ah, the false subtlety! Already the "according to me", it is only YOUR point of view, without knowing if it is that of Pierre-Yves (to him, if he wishes it, to specify his thought!) You must be like Izentrop and have difficulties with the subtlety of the language and its various applications according to the philosophical approach of each individual. Pierre Yves is a pronuclear (It's his right!) that takes the natural elements as a comparison of dangerousness, which is not and has never been contested by anyone. So I argue too, but on the difference between naturalness and the result of human intervention on some of these elements namely the use of minerals for deadly warlike purposes. It's also an enlightened mind!In my opinion Pierre-Yves expresses that one must justify his assertion, and underlines by a concrete argument without ambiguity, why it is necessary to do it. This point is a whole, it requires a global response. But we see Janic begin to quibble on "" A beautiful act of naive faith. "An enlightened mind would not be satisfied with such an" argument "", which makes no sense since it is the following which explains this sentence. !
For the admission of incompetence, MOI, at least I have the honesty to recognize it, but Pierre Yves or yourself do you have these skills in question? This is why I am referring, not to my speech, but to those specialists in radioactive isotopes who do not share the optimism of Pierre Yves or other nuclearists and who denounce the cheating (or lies) pronuclear or their interpretations parcellaires of the subject for industrial political purposes. It is to these people that we must find and compare arguments. [*]Rebelotte with his response to "He would cite examples of the immense nuisances he attributes to nuclear waste.", Commented wrongly and through by an admission of incompetence, but one does not assert anything if one is incompetent , the point evoked was precisely a refusal of the gratuitous affirmation!
this is called doing foresight which is only anticipating probabilities at minimum and maximum, which can be verified only when time passes and so it becomes statistics. If we take these expectations since 50 years, for example, the reality shows that most of the time it exceeded the maxima, considered. So go to 2 or 3 centuries (if humanity goes so far) and the reality will give right or wrong optimists or pessimists (or realistic)And in the end, the icing on the cake following "Do you have any examples? It would show that these nuisances are worse than the damage of hurricanes, droughts, fires ...", response in the form of idle digression affirming that ultimately we do not 'don't need to justify anything, just imagine what it could be !
More and more idle ton speech, actually. Read your introduction: The purpose of the game is to analyze the post of the other before answering him, to extract his or her main points and answer on the bottom to those we have chosen (or all). The technique is normally learned in high school. You have to read everything first.
And then do not forget half by cutting it out of context, what you usually do, it's idle!
You are pathetic, indeed. Your prose also concerns you, do not forget it!Spend his time in sterile rhetoric consisting in ransacking the text of his interlocutor to "embellish" the dislocated pieces, porridge for cats, infantilisms, gargling of disparate words because we did not want to make the effort to read or understand is quite simply a troll. I have already seen specialists in logorrhea on forum, but here we reach peaks issue pollution son. And when the interlocutor, tired, gives up, our troll believes that because he had the last word, he would have been right, and here he is motivated to start again the next blow! Pathetic
You judge the speech of others by the yardstick yours considering this one as the only good reference. You do not even realize that all your argument concerns you first and foremost, but since he is only the worst blind person who does not want to see !!! (It may concern me, of course, too) everyone stays on their so-called scientific or more simply philosophical positions and beliefs.
I would conclude with this magnificent thought of ... from whom? of you obviously: « It is in the light of the propaganda of the past, that we measure the propaganda of today. But what propaganda precisely pro or anti nuclear? Think about it a long time!
And yours one more:
rhetoric
feminine noun
1. 1.
Art of speaking well; technique of the implementation of the means of expression
Thank you, enough, my modesty can not accept all these compliments!
[*] as for the vaccines in question on another subject! you have forgotten this aspect that shows the pseudo validity of his argument and yours too
Men invented seismic constructions, dikes, vaccines, etc.
Of course, rather than settling beyond areas at risk, it persists in staying in these highly deadly places in the long run. The dikes they deteriorate over time and require enormous efforts that will be ruined by the rising waters
As for vaccines it is another illusion that collapses with the permanent rise of autoimmune pathologies, autism and other ideas that we have invented with, always, the vanity of believing that it can dominate by its pseudo science, billions of bacteria and viruses on this earth. Vanity of vanities.
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Re: Wind: for or against the wind?
Siemens Gamesa will expand from 20 to 30 in the operation of 264 wind turbines at 6 wind farms in Aragon, Spain.
https://www.evwind.es/2018/11/29/siemen ... agon/65353
When Janic's post at the top I did not read more than 3 lines, it's off topic.
Siemens Gamesa to extend the useful life of a customer's entire fleet of wind turbines in Aragon
November 29, 2018 evwind.
The company will implement its 264 wind turbines (237.5 MW) located at six wind farms in Aragon.
This program guarantees the availability of wind turbines until 30, extending their useful life by ten years. The initial design is useful for a wind turbine is 20 years.
The contract also includes the operation of turbines and full scope maintenance services
Siemens Gamesa Renewable Energy (SGRE) is an 264 solution for wind turbines of 15 years. These turbines are located at six wind farms in the provinces of Zaragoza and Teruel and have a total output capacity of 237.5 MW.
The Life Extension program consists of monitoring and structural upgrades that can guarantee the availability of wind turbines until 30, 10 years. This program provides greater control over the cost of energy.
In addition, Siemens Games will continue to operate these turbines and provide full scope maintenance services.
"This contract demonstrates the trust of our customers and the added value of our services. 30, adding 10 years of income, said John Paul Larrañeta, Siemens Gamesa's Southern Europe Service Manager, said, "We have been working on these maintenance turbines. and Africa region.
Siemens Gamesa's Business Service is focused on 56,700 MW (onshore and offshore) in 62 countries. Specifically, in Spain the 62 wind farms with a total capacity of 5,900 MW.
......
https://www.evwind.es/2018/11/29/siemen ... agon/65353
When Janic's post at the top I did not read more than 3 lines, it's off topic.
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Re: Wind: for or against the wind?
as usual!When Janic's post at the top I did not read more than 3 lines, it's off topic.
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Re: Wind: for or against the wind?
Reasons for abandoning US wind turbines:
Tehachapi and Altamont are the grandparents of all - the sites of a wind power rush of the 1970-1980 years that went wrong. Federal grants have prompted developers to take action, piling old, malfunctioning turbines in California's windy regions.
In Tehachapi, in the ill-fated Kern County, north of Los Angeles, there was no provision in the law that required developers to cover the future demolition costs of wind turbines. At first, it did not seem like a big problem. But the federal tax cuts soon dried up and the developers disappeared, leaving behind thousands of rusty and moving wind turbines, ranged like soldiers in the windy plain outside Tehachapi.
Estimates vary in the number of wind turbines in the Tehachapi area that have disappeared. Some go up to 4000, but others are lower. Regardless, Tehachapi is definitely an ossuary of wind turbines.
In Altamont, an hour's drive east of San Francisco, California, there are approximately 5 000 wind turbines. All were installed in the early 1980 years as a result of generous federal and state subsidies for renewable energies. Subsequent decades have brought larger and more efficient wind turbines, but there are many aging wind turbines in the Altamont area, with their lattice towers.
The smallest and oldest wind turbines are, unfortunately, effective bird slicers, and operators in the region will soon be upgrading them to larger wind turbines at lower speeds as part of an agreement to further avoid of bird deaths.
A group of 37 wind turbines once marked the location of the Kamaoa wind farm, on the far south of Big Island, Hawaii. The small wind farm opened in 1987 and was shut down 20 years later after a turbine power agreement expired.
However, the Mitsubishi turbines started, became a source of visual pollution increasingly serious and irritated those who wanted to have an unobstructed view of the coast and the Pacific Ocean. The owner of the farm, Apollo Energy Corp., finally removed the 2012 turbines and sold them as waste to China.
... https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/a ... -and-light
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Re: Wind: for or against the wind?
One quarter of the onshore wind power threatened with dismantling in Germany.
What about french people ??
The end of German financial support for wind farms dating back more than 20 years means that they will probably be dismantled from 2020. However, these older wind turbines are numerous and their decommissioning could be faster than the installation of new equipment. In addition, the costs of dismantling are high, some parts are not recyclable and the demolition of the imposing concrete bases poses a serious financial puzzle. https://energieetenvironnement.com/2018 ... allemagne/
What about french people ??
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Re: Wind: for or against the wind?
We should see who, 20 years ago, had already raised the problem and had laughed in the face saying that "everything had been planned"
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Re: Wind: for or against the wind?
From what I understand, it is usually provided in the lease that the operator of the wind turbine is held to dismantle the outer part and part of the concrete base (up to 2 depth m ) at the end of operation. Provision for which an amount is provisioned, but whose effect can remain a dead letter if the company in question has disappeared by this deadline ...
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