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Re: Yellow Vests: Is the November 17 Call Justified? #GiletsJaunes




by Christophe » 12/12/18, 11:59

Exnihiloest wrote:Petition for the abandonment of the energy transition :
"The energy transition is costly, harmful and unfair. It will not have the desired effects on the environment. We therefore ask for it to be immediately abandoned to restore purchasing power to the French as quickly as possible."
https://www.change.org/p/emmanuel-macro ... nergétique


A bullshit over that! These are trouducs who initiated this petition!

Hold on police violence where we did not agree, it seems that I was, unfortunately, right:

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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 12/12/18, 13:15

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Shooting in Strasbourg, live: three dead, France in "emergency attack"

The man, who opened fire near the Christmas market Tuesday night, is still on the run. The government has mobilized additional resources for its hunt.


Some GJ (that heals the guys ...) enter squarely in the unhealthy plot: https://www.rtl.fr/actu/futur/strasbour ... 7795894933 (or are they just looking for their "bogus moment" or "putaclic"?)


The first of all thoughts must go to the victims and their families.

Unfortunately we will not be able to come back to this tragic fact.

Those who think that this tragedy can take advantage of the power in the Yellow Vests movement should think twice about it because it could very well be the opposite.
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by Christophe » 12/12/18, 13:41

nico239 wrote:.... because it could very well be the opposite.


According to what argument do you think?

I mentioned one above (difference in treatment between the Gilles, the terrorist, the file S ... quite intolerable!), But you have, surely, another opinion?
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by Gaston » 12/12/18, 14:00

Christophe wrote:A bullshit over that! These are trouducs who initiated this petition!
It is still quite close to the positions of a large part of the yellow vests (those we interviewed on the roundabouts and who demand in addition to the elimination of fuel taxes, a decline in gas prices and 'electricity).

They are only following the example of a former President of the Republic: "ecology is starting to do well" ...
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by Christophe » 12/12/18, 18:56

Moué is not wrong ... but must be brought to the econology!

Otherwise a fact that I just learned from yesterday's attack: the Bas-Rhin, bastion of the radicalized concentrates 10% of files S ....

https://plus.lesoir.be/195273/article/2 ... adicalises
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by Christophe » 13/12/18, 17:18

News of the day:

The RIC, Popular Initiative Referendum, by Ruffin:



The point by Mélenchon on the economic measures announced by Macron (and it's not pretty pretty ... as it was suggested a few hours after here above):



The state uses the Strasbourg attack to try to weaken the movement:

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by Christophe » 13/12/18, 17:41

Point of view of a policewoman (you see I am not partial!):

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by Exnihiloest » 13/12/18, 17:45

Christophe wrote:
Exnihiloest wrote:Petition for the abandonment of the energy transition :
"The energy transition is costly, harmful and unfair. It will not have the desired effects on the environment. We therefore ask for it to be immediately abandoned to restore purchasing power to the French as quickly as possible."
https://www.change.org/p/emmanuel-macro ... nergétique


A bullshit over that! These are trouducs who initiated this petition!
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What argumentation! Insulting people in the camp as an opponent is defending ideas and it would make things happen?
Obviously the energy transition is expensive, harmful and unfair, and the end result will not be more ecological than the old one. Must stop the politics of the ostrich.
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by Christophe » 13/12/18, 18:07

Some insults are more justified than others my dear!

But you're right I was too nice: these are thuducts, selfish and venal ...

Because you have to really think that your mouth or be well paid by the lobbies in place (which is ultimately the same) to be against the energy transition that will benefit everyone and future generations!

Do you know the real cost of nuclear power?

There is certainly a share of retired employees and EdF cadre in the lot: retired executives who can buy castles (or 3 or 4 second homes) and who are part of the anti-wind lobby ... as a Some Mr Butré: energies-renewable / disinformation-the-renewable-energies-are-the-bankruptcy-of-EDF-t14745.html
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by Ahmed » 13/12/18, 18:24

Unfortunately, the energy transition is beginning is done in a general context which is the same as the classical model, insofar as the two express themselves together in a contradiction which is only apparent. This should reconcile the negationists of the anthropogenic RCA and those who limit their criticism to this one problem: they are two different and complementary ways to dissipate a maximum of energy, that is, to waste a maximum of money (or to gain : in accounting it is only a matter of account assignment); it is also harmful since increasing mining extractivism and increasing inequalities on the social level ...
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