Yellow Vests: Is the call of the November 17 justified? #GiletsJaunes

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Tax-exempt overtime hours ....

Le Figaro translates
A principle of tax-free overtime will be implemented FROM 2019.

So will it be “from” 2019 or only in 2019 ???


Just as there is no longer any question of 2019 in its translation of the cancellation of the increase in the CSG ... let's wait and see

Cancellation of the increase in the CSG for retirees earning less than 2000 euros per month

[Christophe]

Good bin if it is like that, generalized surround, which it releases then!

[Christophe]

Here you are ...

[Exnihiloest]

Yellow vests: recovery is underway

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

In light of the texts we can see a little more clearly, knowing that the Prime Minister may add more this afternoon to the Assembly.

Always interesting to go to the Élysée site
https://www.elysee.fr/emmanuel-macron/2 ... embre-2018

Concrete measures for your daily life:

Cancellation in 2019 of the increase in the CSG suffered this year by retirees between 1200 and 2000 euros per month;
In 2019, overtime will be paid without taxes or charges;
Employers will be able to pay an end-of-year bonus which will not have to pay any tax or charge;
Campaign engagement: the salary of an employee at the minimum wage will increase by a total of 100 euros per month, without costing the employer an extra euro, and this from 2019 instead of being spread over the entire five-year period .

Like that at least it is clearer and (a little) less subliminal


1. the CSG for retirees

It is therefore a SUSPENSION (or a moratorium if you prefer ) and NOT a cancellation of the increase in the CSG for retirees between 1200 and 2000 euros per month?
Not sure.

The President's sentence is no more enlightening: exactly what I described in the deciphering of the new fashionable language of communication ...
in 2019 we will reverse the increase in CSG suffered this year

Literally it means nothing
Would have been clear
- in 2019 we will cancel the increase in CSG
- in 2019 we will reimburse the increase in CSG suffered in 2018

The reference to the year 2019 would suggest that in 2019 retirees from the 1200/2000 bracket will not be subject to this CSG.
What about the 2020 suite ... etc

It goes without saying that the majority understood that retirees from the 1200/2000 bracket will NEVER NEVER be subject to this CSG again, which I doubt at this time ....

If it was only a suspension then it would take Retired people are a precious part of our Nation. for wild ducks ... or rather consider them as precious only for the year 2019.

How profitable is this treacherous communication with the public?
To see in future surveys


To be continued...

Useful details on the measurement ... precisions a priori correct.

We must base ourselves on the RFR

https://www.liberation.fr/checknews/201 ... e-_1697230

Retirees (single) with an RFR between 14 euros and 548 euros will therefore see the 22 point increase in CSG canceled. They will find a rate of 354%.

A retiree with an RFR greater than 22 euros will continue to pay the maximum rate (354%).


From now on, as of January 1, 2019, a COUPLE of retirees with an RFR between 22 euros and 316 euros will therefore see the 34 point increase in CSG canceled.

Keep this link carefully (for retirees) because when the page is updated it should be clear enough
https://www.cfdt-retraités.fr/CSG2019
For the same price on this page you also have the calculation link for the housing tax


However nothing (or I misread) in checknews on the sustainability (or not) of the measure

And it seems to me that in his presentation Mathilde Panot is mistaken, it is not strictly speaking 2000 per fiscal household (couple) but it is also not 4000 per fiscal household

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Newspaper at 20 p.m., the presenter Boulau talks about the increase in the minimum wage ...

Fortunately Lenglet rectifies ... increase in aid paid by CAF ... phew for this time.

Ok, but how long will an honest reporter correct?

It smells like a tree for the GJs if all the media are relaying ..... fake news

After Collomb 1st GJ .... Lenglet last GJ

[Remundo]

almost all the measures announced are whirlwinds, frankly it's not brilliant ...

some (partial) analyzes by Daniel Schneidermann: https://www.arretsurimages.net/chroniqu ... z-le-gilet

[A.D. 44]

... the cash will therefore come from the suppression of public services and planes of social assistance, in the end it will cost us much more than the increase in the fuel tax which set fire to the powder.

Still nothing surprising ...

A society that sees no further than the end of its nose and that only thinks with its wallet ...

All of this is in line with the dismantling of public goods already undertaken. Its destruction will simply accelerate at the request ... of the people (more in my pocket and less in that of others).

The battle for the power of a cat will lead to the loss of public goods.

[Christophe]

What happened last night in Strasbourg, my hometown, should calm the Yellow Vests movement a little ... in 2 ways by:
- the speech of national union (fair)
- increased fear of YG and security measures (a little less fair)

For those who have hibernated since last night: https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/live/201 ... _3224.html

Shooting in Strasbourg, live: three dead, France in "emergency attack"

The man, who opened fire near the Christmas market Tuesday night, is still on the run. The government has mobilized additional resources for its hunt.

Some GJ (that heals the guys ...) enter squarely in the unhealthy plot: https://www.rtl.fr/actu/futur/strasbour ... 7795894933 (or are they just looking for their "bogus moment" or "putaclic"?)

I am personally, given the security system around the Christmas market, just surprised at 2 things in the current anti-terrorist context (sentinel device)

- that this has happened (but it is true that all accesses are not systematically searched: given the number of people, not possible ...)
- that the terrorist has not (yet) been shot (considering the number of people on the Christmas market, even on a Tuesday evening ... it's not the witnesses who are missing even in panic mode ...). Why did the more numerous and better organized soldiers not pursue or track him down (like the shit he is)?

This attack is a blatant failure of anti-terrorist security ... Note all the more blatant when we see the police violence of the last few weeks on certain demonstrators (you have to have less balls to type or gas same as shooting a terrorist it is certain ...)!

In other words: the armed wing of the State seems to me to be badly directed ...

[Christophe]

Very good: