Vegetable garden of the (super) lazy in the 04 (800m)

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Concerning the second photo, I cannot say for the net but I think that the "dry" area of ​​contention (stones, tarpaulin) has a certain "efficiency".

My experience: when I run around the plots and I maintain this area well, let's say they are reluctant to go through it and I have less if there was a grassy and wet area! Some advocate also a wide band shorn (say 2m for example) around the kitchen garden, it does not seem silly ...

The problem for you is that the question arises in the greenhouse which is in itself a big wet area so I do not know if it could have an effect. Besides, do you ventilate it well (to evacuate this moisture as much as possible)?

Of course in the greenhouse you can not do anything and even outdoors.

And yes it stays wet.

In the greenhouse we are quiet with onions and beans (at that time no aphids).

On the outside, beans, spinach, carrots, RAS lamb's lettuce

Radishes are 50 / 50

Cabbage is the cat.

Only bottled seedlings are safe for the moment.

The cabbage in the herbs is very late but intact.

The seedlings of cabbages .... elsewhere (pleasure garden) are FOR THE MOMENT intact.

The problem is the greenhouse: we can brush for a winter full of salads like last year ...

Well we reacted a little late maybe.

I have different protection ideas from the top photos but for now it's only under study.

Reason why I wanted to know if anyone had tested any of these 3 photos.

In addition, did anyone test slug nematodes?

But it's a great challenge to find the definitive parade

[Did67]

My mother-in-law and agronomist friends used the ph-type nematode (unlike the pH that measures acidity, it's the P that's uppercase - the name of the genus), and the h that's tiny - species - that means Phasmarabditis hermaphrodita!), successfully.

This is expensive but effective.

Be careful, by creating a "vacuum" of gastropods, this can cause a proliferation ... of snails, in places where there are some! They are protected by their shell and have the same "style" of life, occupying the same niche! Nothing is ever perfect in this low world, you know my litany!

Note: I have no particular apprehension against this type of "biocontrol" - even though sometimes there are side effects. These are ultra-specific nematodes, not to be confused with other pathogenic nematodes (which attack the roots of plants, and "transport" diseases including viruses).

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Ok thank you, not easy to have feedback on this topic ...

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Adoption of hedgehogs: a solution?

[to be chafoin]

Concerning the physical barriers against slugs there is the risk equivalent to the problem evoked for the nematodes and perhaps also to prevent some auxiliary insects to join your plots (carabes for example?) ... but well I would try when even...

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

We think....

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Occasional opportunism ...

This morning I just typed 1h bucking and now at coffee time and nap I open my emails and I come across an ad for my easel ... so I say I want to make you enjoy it because I can assure you that it is seen, used and approved.

https://www.quincaillerie.pro/jardin-au ... vaux-hiver

To 60 € do not miss it absolutely if you have the use

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Discussions about planting are piling up endlessly on the net, whether in the forums or videos.

Start date, heat, light, container, watering, everything goes but anyway when to go there must go.





2017: we started in January in a very traditional way ...



Everything went well until one night in late April when, a little too enthusiastic we had left all this outside (or almost) ... and badaboum.

But what had not frozen had produced the following summer.


2018: no time to plant, there were other fires on the gas.



2019: it's like 2017 but let's say a little more ... big.














So in order.

Why relatively early in January?
1. because it worked well in 2017
2. because at home (land + altitude) if we do not start early it is useless, the tomatoes are ripe in September and it freezes the 15
3. we were sure of having time in January and not necessarily so much in February.


The gear
If you wanted to do a lot of things you had to put it all somewhere without breaking the bank.
So find cheap shelves and NOT wood because their second destination (once the seedlings are completed) is outside, weathered
So we opted for the resin
10 € the shelf of 4 resin levels (but we can add, what we did), very sturdy with clip to connect them and U to fix them to any support at any time outside: ask for more?
https://www.leroymerlin.fr/v3/p/produit ... 1500700539

seed plates 30 20 60 alveoli port included

Remained a problem: how to water all this without passing lead.

Finding a tray with the dimensions of the shelves and seed plates was illusory or possibly too expensive.
Then there was only to make them.

Lumber at the 30 sawmill 30
Screws and some cleats
And the good old greenhouse tarpaulin and forward











As for the essentials now: sowing.

The conditions are simple: a bay window to the south and point bar and very general sunshine in the 04 (in general)

- tomatoes
- coriander
- pepper
- basil
- eggplants
- chard
- coriander
others will follow.

Some have already been repotted in pots of our stock
250 buckets of 9cm are being delivered to continue on this way if necessary.

The main danger: let it go.

This has already started: a little but not excessive and immediately transplanted.

The plants closest to the windows are favored, the others go a little farther for the light.

It's a job but that's it or nothing or almost.

The worst is to come when all this will grow hopefully and take more and more space: crazy:

[Moindreffor]

as it is in your room, you can easily leave the light on, do not neglect the duration of the day, so you have to light if you do not want it to run
horticulturists light their greenhouses,
the triangle of success, heat, humidity and LIGHT, I'm going to do something more modest but incorporating a lighting, for sowing in February, after for those of March it should pass, with LED bulbs it does not come back not too expensive in consumption

[to be chafoin]

Awesome!

Good idea the c ° of the bins.

What is an indoor tomato left where I dreamed?