France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.

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Re: France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.




by izentrop » 22/10/18, 00:09

Initiativecytoyenne.be thank you Janic, we know well their point of view : Twisted: : Twisted:
But there are others.

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by Janic » 22/10/18, 08:39

Initiativecytoyenne.be thank you Janic, we know well their point of view : Twisted: : Twisted:
But there are others.
We are in a human society with different points of view, whatever the subject, including vaccines. But there is an important difference between knowing, having heard about it, and having studied each proposed subject, which seems to escape you.
Citizen Initiative basically collation of international information on this subject, as a whistleblower, which seems not to make vaxxeuses, so that everyone makes his opinion and his choices. But you are against non-conformist choices, of course!
Now your zigotos of vaxxeuses and others make their propaganda distilling his misinformation with his usual lies as confusing being antivaxx and being for freedom of conscience and choice, in this area as much as in others. But none of those whom you quote [*] usually is antivaxx but considers, in different ways according to the individuals, that there are quantitative excesses, on the precocity of the vaccines or the associated plurality of these? This is not to be antivaxx but for a different vaccination and in the really useful cases.
Finally the only ones to be unanimously for these are the labs that manufacture these vaccines with their propaganda.
I will dissect the subject on Delepine, the other on the Gardasil is more delicate and too controversial scientifically, to debunker their errors and lies.
[*] Wakefield is provaxx, Joyeux also provaxx, among others. But your regular lies want to pretend otherwise.
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by izentrop » 22/10/18, 10:14

Janic wrote:But your zigotos of vaxxeuses and others make their propaganda distilling his misinformation
Let everyone have the choice to judge, you are on a forum here. : Mrgreen:

As usual, the comments of their publications left free, are also full of lessons.
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by Janic » 22/10/18, 12:27

Janic wrote:
But your zigotos of vaxxeuses and others make their propaganda distilling his misinformation
Let everyone have the choice to judge, you are on a forum here. : Mrgreen:
I, at least, allow everyone the right to judge by providing different information from your zigotos in question. I've never used misleading speeches like you (they) do it on Wakefield, on Merry as your jokes do. (Without verifying the reality.) So assuming they're not aware that these people have been cleared of the charges they have suffered, ( :?: The least thing is to make a corrigendum to prove their good faith and in the opposite case, it confirms that they are accusations wrongly.
There is no information that a senior CDC member has acknowledged that the MMR documents have been destroyed so that this is not known and disseminated.
As usual, the comments of their publications left free, are also full of lessons.
comments from all forums pro and anti are interesting, but are usually only those of their aficionados. So the comments of regeneration are laudatory and nothing prevents you from participating since it is free, if you like the ridiculous.
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Re: France is one of the worst European pupils in terms of vaccination.




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by Janic » 25/10/18, 18:52

Does Gardasil cause cancer? http://bioweb.blog/index.php/2018/10/18 ... -the cancer
interesting work, but skewed by some inaccurate and biased points of view, but all do the same. So yes, the gardasil and his friends are asking the question of the pros and cons and the justification for taking a product that is not more effective than smear tests. In fact, would not the labs that manufacture these vaccines have an economic interest more than the health of individuals?
but I can, again, engage in a contradictory analysis of his speech, but as you have refused others, you will probably prefer that these contradictions not be put forward.
As a reminder, asbestos, DDT, distilbene, thalidomine and other products banned today did not show their "official" damage, which did not budge before the scandals could no longer be hidden.
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by Janic » 28/10/18, 08:16

Blah blah blah like other times! but you have no desire to see the vaxxous speech critically examined by someone who has known the subject for decades, even though you yourself probably do not know how to make an herbal tea. On the one hand, you ridicule yourself in the eyes of those who know and practice what you are making fun of, but in addition it is to ignore this general movement which occurs to return to less artificial practices, those which you defend with relentless, in vain.
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by izentrop » 31/10/18, 01:55

Over the last 20 years, dishonest researchers, conflicting scientific findings, and the media have contributed to a debate about the vaccination / autism report. Despite overwhelming evidence that there is no link between autism and vaccination (Gerber and Offit, 2009, Institute of Medicine [IOM], 2004, Taylor et al, 2002), one in four Americans still believe vaccines cause autism (Gross, 2009) Many parents choose not to have their children vaccinated (Gross, 2009; Hall, 2009; Moreno, 2005) and a fear of vaccination has created a seven-fold increase in measles epidemics in states -Unis (Begley & Interlandi, 2009).
It's not just Americans, follow my eyes : Wink:
http://autisme-info.blogspot.com/2014/05/
It's full of lessons how these rumors spread on social networks.

On the other hand, there are more and more indicators of links with pollution https://www.science-et-vie.com/archives ... erre-15594
Autism would be favored by in utero exposure to atmospheric pollutants. This is what emerges from a study carried out in the United States on a cohort of women and children followed between 1987 and 2002. By cross-checking the places and dates of birth, the team showed that the autistic children were born. in less "clean" areas. First suspects: diesel and mercury, followed by lead, manganese and dichloromethane. "The cause and effect link remains to be demonstrated," tempers Andrea Roberts, co-author of the study at Harvard School of Public Health.
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by Janic » 31/10/18, 17:55

It's not just Americans, follow my eyes : Wink:
http://autisme-info.blogspot.com/2014/05/
It's full of lessons how these rumors spread on social networks.
andas it is a social network that broadcasts this kind of fake news, it does not come out. Instead of citing articles that have 10 years late or more, and are out of date, quotes very recent and independent articles.
Wakefield was cleared as well as his main colleague by court judgment State, EUX, following the lies spread on the media by a journalist in conflict of interest with a big lab. You also forget that a senior CDC official admitted to destroying documents involving the MMR in relation to autism. Or that other independent studies actually highlight this role.
So yes, the labs also take advantage of social networks to promote them. : Evil:
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