Electric bike: an acceptable compromise?

[Ahmed]

This is obviously not the meaning of what is said Sen-no-sen, simply because the proliferation of motor vehicles, because of their number, but also their dangerousness, is at the origin of a regulation more and more complex and fussy, whereas some simple rules would be enough to a circulation essentially Cyclist.

[Christophe]

About regulation, if it goes new-transport / urban-of-tolls-a-5 10-or-en-France soon-t15791.html the cars in town are going to decrease!

And the depreciation of an alternative vehicle will be much faster ... except that in some cases there is no correct alternative on the market (case: have to do 2 * 25 km to do a day to go work with his personal laptop ... not feasible in winter in VAE and even in summer, 50 km per day bike is long ... very long ...) ...

[Ahmed]

It is quite obvious that mobility solutions only make sense with a redefinition of town planning, spatial planning and lifestyles, since they have been parameterized mainly according to the car. And this redefinition is anything but simple ...

[sen-no-sen]

Uh do you mean that a bike, therefore muscular, must not respect the rules of the road?

Essentially not ... the bike is a device for muscular propulsion, as a mode of displacement on a human scale it is the measures of courtesies that prevail.
It is very difficult to get along when you are locked up at a high speed in a cockpit, which is why a code of the road was introduced, while on the bike a nod or a movement of the hand is enough ...
After, for reasons of obvious survival, cyclists must - if they do not want to become organ donors - respect at least the code of the road.

[Mixieer56]

Uh do you mean that a bike, therefore muscular, must not respect the rules of the road?

Essentially not ... the bike is a device for muscular propulsion, as a mode of displacement on a human scale it is the measures of courtesies that prevail.
It is very difficult to get along when you are locked up at a high speed in a cockpit, which is why a code of the road was introduced, while on the bike a nod or a movement of the hand is enough ...
After, for reasons of obvious survival, cyclists must - if they do not want to become organ donors - respect at least the code of the road.

Passing - the shortest possible - in Paris, I can testify to the systematic non-compliance with basic rules of courtesy and code on the part of electric or non-electric bicycles and electric scooters! The worst is the speed at which they travel on bike paths.

[Ahmed]

The industrial age also implies a standardization of human behavior downwards and what you observe is the consequence.

[Christophe]

Many VAE actually exceed the 25 kmh and 250W ... debridés so ...

But it's still less bad than some trotinettes that make more 2000W for 60 kmh!

[sen-no-sen]

Passing - the shortest possible - in Paris, I can testify to the systematic non-compliance with basic rules of courtesy and code on the part of electric or non-electric bicycles and electric scooters! The worst is the speed at which they travel on bike paths.

The dangerousness of certain roads in view of the traffic encourages cyclists to take sidewalks and to disturb pedestrians ... However, is this lack of courtesy the result of the invasion of the public space by motorists?

[Ahmed]

Christophe, you write:

Many VAE actually exceed the 25 kmh and 250W ... debridés so ...

It should be noted that you mean that the power assistance does not stop at 25 km / h because of a kit unlicensing that violates the regulations, but on a standard-compliant EVA, it is still possible to overtake this speed pedaling energetically on the flat and even more easily downhill.

[thibr]

can be one like this