The future of robotics work

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The future of robotics work




by moinsdewatt » 17/09/18, 22:50

In 2025, machines will perform more tasks than humans

AFP 17 / 09 / 2018

Robots will perform 52% of common professional tasks by 2025, according to a study by Forum world economic report published Monday, which however claims that "the robotics revolution will create 58 million net new jobs over the next five years."

"By 2025, more than half of all current tasks performed in the workplace will be performed by machines, compared to 29% today," say researchers from the Geneva-based foundation, known in particular for organizing each year on Forum from Davos.

Some sectors will be more affected than others by automation. The report predicts that, by 2022, 75 million jobs could disappear, particularly in accounting, the secretariat, assembly plants, customer management centers or postal services.

But researchers believe that 133 million jobs could be created in parallel, mainly in connection with the digital revolution: artificial intelligence, data processing (big data), computer software, marketing ... Developers and specialists in new technologies will be very requested.

"The aviation, travel and tourism industry" project "the highest reconversion needs over the period 2018-2022", according to the survey conducted among companies in 12 sectors of activity in 20 developed and emerging economies.

"Skills shortages are also of particular concern in the information and communications technology, financial services, and mining and metals sectors."

In the end, "if nearly 50% of companies anticipate a reduction in their full-time workforce by 2022 due to automation, nearly 40% on the contrary anticipate an overall increase in their workforce and more than a quarter expects automation to create new jobs, ”the report explains.

The concrete consequences for employees are difficult to predict, but researchers expect a "huge disruption (...) within the global workforce", with "significant changes in quality, location, format and permanence of functions ".


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Re: The future of robotics work




by izentrop » 17/09/18, 23:57

And so much the better, the painful tasks for the robots, it leaves us time for leisure ... Yes, it's easy for me who left the job market.
The concern for the future is rather the distribution of wealth to leave no one behind ... A big political work in perspective. : Wink:
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by Ahmed » 18/09/18, 12:59

Regarding "painful tasks", it should be remembered that this is not the underlying reason for robotization, but only its public justification.
From a theoretical (but real!) Point of view, robots only create abstract value temporarily, as long as they measure themselves (through the amount of socially necessary work per unit of product) in other units of production requiring more manpower, which is the case of less capital-intensive structures doomed either to disappear or to survive in niche markets.
For large industries, this maintenance is therefore a favorable strategy: in another area obeying the same logic, that of cheese making, artisanal production, encumbered with all the equipment "intended to ensure the safety of consumers" (imposed by policies driven by manufacturers) depends on a fairly high price which constitutes a de facto rent for manufacturers with much lower production costs.
You write:
The concern for the future is rather the distribution of wealth so that no one is left behind ...

It's a delicate understatement: everyone knows that the fashion is to first reward the "first riders" ... and hope that a little "will trickle down" to the others! : Lol: Perhaps this figure of style impresses a few? : roll:
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by moinsdewatt » 18/09/18, 20:21

izentrop wrote:And so much the better, the painful tasks for the robots, it leaves us time for leisure ... Yes, it's easy for me who left the job market.
The concern for the future is rather the distribution of wealth to leave no one behind ... A big political work in perspective. : Wink:


What will happen is that a lot of people will become unemployable.

Read Laurent Alexandre on the subject.

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Re: The future of robotics work




by Ahmed » 18/09/18, 20:57

The kind speeches that claim that other trades will be induced by robotization are tales: this may be true during the transition, but this reasoning is based only on the past and the concept of creative destruction, it is to say at a time when the variety and the mass of goods grew prodigiously, which obscured the dynamics at work.
The constriction of the mass of producers / consumers constitutes the stumbling block of the market and some, to get around the obstacle, advocate the UK. However, you don't need to be a great clerk to understand that this is only a temporary step towards the social annihilation of a growing part of the population. This phenomenon is beginning to be taken into account as it begins to affect categories that have a voice in places of expression: as long as it only concerned workers, a philanthropic pirouette claimed that it was for their " avoid arduous and dangerous work "(Cf. above). Unstoppable trick since it concealed the lure of profit under a hypocritical solicitude.
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Re: The future of robotics work




by izentrop » 20/09/18, 02:10

moinsdewatt wrote:
izentrop wrote:And so much the better, the painful tasks for the robots, it leaves us time for leisure ... Yes, it's easy for me who left the job market.
The concern for the future is rather the distribution of wealth to leave no one behind ... A big political work in perspective. : Wink:
What will happen is that a lot of people will become unemployable.
Just cross the street : Wink:

Ahmed, the UK without conditions does not work, we know that.
Universal activity income seems to be taking a few steps in the right direction. the future will tell us if it is more efficient and fair than RSA.
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by sen-no-sen » 20/09/18, 20:46

izentrop wrote:Ahmed, the UK without conditions does not work, we know that.
Universal activity income seems to be taking a few steps in the right direction. the future will tell us if it is more efficient and fair than RSA.


Un RUA instead of RSA, white bonnet white bonnet ... why not a Multiannual Daily Allowance Income or RPIJ? :frown:
The problem lies beyond acronyms, compensating people to prevent them from entering into a coalition against the government is the real name of all its economic measures.
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Re: The future of robotics work




by Christophe » 20/09/18, 21:21

moinsdewatt wrote:
In 2025, machines will perform more tasks than humans


Uh, isn't that already the case with the internet and IT? What exactly is a task?

Take the case of Amazon: how many product pages are viewed per day? How many employee equivalents would it take if each of these products were to be displayed in an old-fashioned "counter"?

Same remark for banking operations? If it took a human to write down by hand each operation that the bank servers perform TODAY, there would be no unemployed on earth!

No no it's on: machines already perform more tasks than humans!

And that's why I have been defending universal income tooth and nail for years !! Company-and-philosophy / the-back-of-basic-or-income-universal-operation-debat-t11186.html

A machine needs only a few kWh per month to live ... a much more human!

Politicians have still not understood this (or rather if but they don't say it) ...
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Re: The future of robotics work




by Ahmed » 21/09/18, 19:21

Computers have replaced employees on a large number of tasks, but the work done automatically is indeed much greater than what it replaces: in reality, a quantity of new tasks never performed by humans have appeared; only automation made them possible.
Our society is founded on two main organizational principles (and not moral!) Interdependent: work and goods. The UK intends to act on the growing dissociation between these two aspects, but it is not so simple and it is crucial to understand that it is in fact a transitional measure * intended to anaesthetize those left behind. and to provide cheap labor before being able (by evolution) to abandon them to their sad fate as soon as it is politically and socially possible.

* What should incite mistrust, in addition to a careful analysis, is the fact of the adhesion of big capitalists to this option.
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by sen-no-sen » 21/09/18, 21:03

The question has already been addressed here: Tomorrow all the unemployed?https://www.econologie.com/forums/economie-finance/demain-tous-chomeurs-t13279.html
First of all, it is not robotization that will create unemployment, but more artificial intelligence.
Indeed, AI allows to replace a certain number of workers without requiring immense costs ... or even for free. Conversely, robotization requires significant investments and does not make it possible to satisfy certain complex tasks, in particular those having to do with human ergonomics (cleaning, personal assistance, safety), moreover the price of raw materials, often based on high tech materials are very expensive.
The era of generalized robotization is not for now, in fact it is much more economical to make humans work cheaply for an AI than to automate everything.
This is how companies like UBER ou Deliveroo.
The next phase will be to automate the driving trades, including the airline industry, again AI will work wonders where a food processor would find it most difficult to perform the simplest tasks.

Contrary to the speeches of certain politicians, it is in reality more jobs with a high level of qualifications which are in danger rather than small "jobs".
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