Economic analyzes on the passage from 90 km / h to 80 km / h in France ...

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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 24/05/18, 23:58

In any case in my business this will be the case ....

All the big wheelers (including me) will have an extra week off per year: isn't life good? Image
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by Christophe » 25/05/18, 00:14

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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 25/05/18, 00:27

I don't know who to believe but it's very concrete ...

If I report on '2017 personal' I have exactly 70 x 15mn either 17pm or 30 days ....

All this being standardized, no way to cut it: IT does not laugh with standards : Mrgreen:

Multiplies across France for those who are subject to these rules plus public transport, carriers, deliverers, taxis and co ...
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by Christophe » 25/05/18, 00:46

Concrete yes ... it remains to be seen who will pay? Ultimately it is always the end customer ... will he want it? Will he be able to?

For the multiplication it was the object of my point e) above ... point which concerns ONLY Boulot-Dodo journeys ... We already arrive at more than 2 billion € equivalent in hours lost ... ( at minimum wage)

e) To go further, at the GDP level, we can assume that one worker in 2 uses his car to go to work (the reality must be higher) and knowing that the number of working workers in France is 25,8, 25,8 million and roughly 2 / 16,2 * 8 / XNUMX = 26,1 million working days (8 hours a day) lost each year, I let you convert this loss of activity into € (at least 2 billion) ...


No, it's on ... the politicians who imposed this new limit are ... traitors to the nation! : Mrgreen:
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by Janic » 25/05/18, 07:57

christophe hello

It is certainly not cancer on the age group of young people aged 15 to 24.


Cancer rates on the rise among teens
The number of new annual cases of cancer in adolescents and young adults unexplainedly increasing while survival has not improved for XNUMX years, lamented British and American researchers.


https://sante-guerir.notrefamille.com/s ... 04888.html


This steady increase is not surprising! It should be remembered that at the beginning of the 20th century cancers in children were extremely rare.

The specifics of childhood and adolescent cancers
Each year, approximately 2 new cases of cancer are diagnosed in children (550) and adolescents (1). Although rare, these cancers are the fourth leading cause of death between the ages of 750 and 800.
The survival of children and adolescents with these cancers has improved very significantly in recent decades and now exceeds 80%.
• The most frequent cancers
THE MOST FREQUENT CANCERS
In children under 15, the main locations are:
• leukemias (29% of cases including 80% of acute lymphoblastic leukemias);
• tumors of the central nervous system (CNS) (24%);
• and lymphomas (11%).
In boys, there is a preponderance of lymphomas (Burkitt's lymphomas), medulloblastomas, soft tissue sarcomas and bone tumors. In girls, germ and epithelial tumors (melanomas, thyroid carcinomas) are more common.
Half of childhood cancers occur before the age of 5. Before 1 year of age, tumors of the sympathetic nervous system are the most frequent, followed by tumors of the central nervous system and leukemias. Between 1 and 5 years, leukemias predominate with tumors of the central nervous system. After 5 years, leukemias, tumors of the central nervous system and lymphomas represent the most diagnosed cancers.
The histological types of cancers occurring in adolescence (15-19 years) differ from those that develop in children.
In adolescents, the most common cancers are:
• Hodgkin's lymphomas (22%);
• acute leukemias (12%);
• thyroid cancer (9%);
• gonadal germ tumors (9%);
• CNS tumors (8%);
• bone tumors (8%);
• non-Hodgkin's malignant lymphomas (7%).


http://www.e-cancer.fr/Professionnels-d ... dolescents


There too, and this is important, even major, the statistics are no longer measured beyond the fateful 5 years, and there ...!
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by Leo Maximus » 25/05/18, 12:41

nico239 wrote:Example: you go to a meeting at 90km (or you're just going to work)
You are doing well 90km
Before you put 1h
Now you will put 1h07
Let 15mn further go back.
If you do this 4 times a week it is 1h to recover multiplied by 45 weeks (work per year to the ladle) it is 45h what makes you 5.6 days to recover is an extra week of leave per year for a decline of 10km / h

The transition to 80 km / h has been experienced since 2015 and the drop observed in average speed is not 10 km / h but approximately 5 km / h.
World link: https://www.lemonde.fr/securite-routier ... 55513.html
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by Christophe » 25/05/18, 12:47

Yes Leo ... you have to take into account the braking / acceleration phases in the calculation of the average speed so ok on winding roads ...

But this kind of figure still smells of petroleum jelly to make it pass better ... Don't you think?
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by Leo Maximus » 25/05/18, 13:02

Christophe wrote:Yes Leo ... you have to take into account the braking / acceleration phases in the calculation of the average speed so ok on winding roads ...

But this kind of figure still smells of petroleum jelly to make it pass better ... Don't you think?

The actual figure of 5 km / h has gone unnoticed, the proof in the thread ...

My opinion is that the state wants to show its authority. He wants to take things in hand.
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by Leo Maximus » 25/05/18, 13:12

Janic wrote:... It should be remembered that at the beginning of the 20th century cancers in children were extremely rare ...

Old regional newspapers such as "Le Télégramme" have been scanned. We can download them.

In the obituary section, we can see that infant mortality was extraordinarily high, 1 in 2 deaths! And we didn't really know what the children would die of.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 25/05/18, 13:59

Leo Maximus wrote:
nico239 wrote:Example: you go to a meeting at 90km (or you're just going to work)
You are doing well 90km
Before you put 1h
Now you will put 1h07
Let 15mn further go back.
If you do this 4 times a week it is 1h to recover multiplied by 45 weeks (work per year to the ladle) it is 45h what makes you 5.6 days to recover is an extra week of leave per year for a decline of 10km / h

The transition to 80 km / h has been experienced since 2015 and the drop observed in average speed is not 10 km / h but approximately 5 km / h.
World link: https://www.lemonde.fr/securite-routier ... 55513.html


Hello,

I totally agree with you .... but the software ignores him.

And he is right ...

And it is better not to contradict it (counting a time lower than the theoretical time / speed) because if you ever have a problem then it will be YOUR FAULT.

Because you will not have respected the speed limits ...
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