Do you do it on purpose or are you really .....?
I ask you the temperature of the brine at the outlet of the heat pump, before reinjection to the ground.
If it is 0 ° C as at the input, you are in purely electric heating with a COP of 1.
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sicetaitsimple wrote:Do you do it on purpose or are you really .....?
I ask you the temperature of the brine at the outlet of the heat pump, before reinjection to the ground.
If it is 0 ° C as at the input, you are in purely electric heating with a COP of 1.
It is at -4,5 ° returning to the ground.
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BaudouinLabrique wrote:
It is at -4,5 ° returning to the ground.
Ah, we'll get there!
Well, all this is not inconsistent, even if the "true" value of the flow rate of the brine loop would be interesting to know.
Understood between 800 and 1500l / h, we will assume that it is 1000l / h for lack of better.
A ladle, 1000l / h with a temperature difference of 4,5 ° between the inlet and the outlet, that makes 4,5 kW recovered. With a COP of 3 approximately, it is a heating power of approximately 7kW, we fall back on your values for the performance of the CAP.
If you heat the brine at the inlet with a power of 1kW according to your initial idea, you will increase the input temperature of 1 ° by approximately 2 ° for a power of 2kW. etc ...
There is no miracle.....
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sicetaitsimple wrote:BaudouinLabrique wrote:
It is at -4,5 ° returning to the ground.
Ah, we'll get there!
Well, all this is not inconsistent, even if the "true" value of the flow rate of the brine loop would be interesting to know.
Understood between 800 and 1500l / h, we will assume that it is 1000l / h for lack of better.
A ladle, 1000l / h with a temperature difference of 4,5 ° between the inlet and the outlet, that makes 4,5 kW recovered. With a COP of 3 approximately, it is a heating power of approximately 7kW, we fall back on your values for the performance of the CAP.
If you heat the brine at the inlet with a power of 1kW according to your initial idea, you will increase the input temperature of 1 ° by approximately 2 ° for a power of 2kW. etc ...
There is no miracle.....
Thank you for these calculations!
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I took advantage of the existing topic on solar hydrogen to go further with my questioning about my hydrogen equipment project.
It is HERE
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It would be better not to clutter all topics and to reserve your interventions and questions over 10 pages almost completely devoted to your projects. It would avoid getting lost, even if I understand your desire to see disappear from the history of the debate some enormities .....
heating-insulation / the-house-a-hydrogen-t4316.html
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sicetaitsimple wrote:It would be better not to clutter all topics and to reserve your interventions and questions over 10 pages almost completely devoted to your projects. It would avoid getting lost, even if I understand your desire to see disappear from the history of the debate some enormities .....
heating-insulation / the-house-a-hydrogen-t4316.html
Do not make me trial of intent yet!
Un forum must remain the place of debates of ideas but not of invectives!
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BaudouinLabrique wrote:sicetaitsimple wrote:It would be better not to clutter all topics and to reserve your interventions and questions over 10 pages almost completely devoted to your projects. It would avoid getting lost, even if I understand your desire to see disappear from the history of the debate some enormities .....
heating-insulation / the-house-a-hydrogen-t4316.html
Do not make me trial of intent yet!
Un forum must remain the place of debates of ideas but not of invectives!
Invectives? Where?
I'm just saying that when a thread of 10 pages is almost exclusively dedicated to your projects, it seems logical to continue your questions on this one rather than to squat two others.
Now, it is true that we can always discuss everything everywhere, I just find it a shame, it dilutes and discourages a number of interventions.
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sicetaitsimple wrote:I'm just saying that when a thread of 10 pages is almost exclusively dedicated to your projects, it seems logical to continue your questions on this one rather than to squat two others.
Now, it is true that we can always discuss everything everywhere, I just find it a shame, it dilutes and discourages a number of interventions.
1 ° Invectives: try to stay polite (you do not even realize that some of your words hurt
2 ° the hydrogen house topic was stopped (more new posts)
3 ° is a very specific subject, so I think it's better to inform about other topics
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