Already seen ! This notion of matter, even outdated, remains a concrete reality. A hammer blow on the finger (Ouch!) Remains painful despite the fact that the enormous space existing between each atom of a molecule makes it likely (even with the Higgs boson!) To collide!janic wrote: Everything is just belief! [*] You believe in a certain form of materialist science, which sees in matter its reason for being matter and it is an option which is well worth another, but thus confusing cause and effect.
An external intervention separates the two, it's just another option, another belief then which is well worth the first!
It is an inference on your part, matter does not exist in absolute terms, it is simply the term that we use to designate interactions on our scale, materialism is a thought inherited from the 19th century and which now have a lot of lead in the wing ...
There is a third which is to believe that supposedly rational approaches, but unverifiable by lack of adequate means are therefore not observed as for the living and therefore the self-organization of this oneRegarding beliefs:
We generally designate by belief the act of considering something to be true.
From this we can determine two types of beliefs: rational beliefs, verified as for example heliocentrism and non-refutable, unrecognized beliefs, such as that of god, fairies etc ...
Who would then seek to deceive the other (?)Putting both types of approach on an equal footing is a manifest error, not to say a desire to deceive (?).
Re-re-repeat. Scarring is a phenomenon of which we only know His look of self-organization of the fact that the appearance of this one (the cicatrization) is not accessible to us being its distant origin, we do nothing but note its existence, its outstanding not its origin.But the self-organization of the living is a fact my dear friend, this is also more a fact than the roundness of the earth, because everyone can see it with their own eyes! When you hurt yourself your skin heals on its own, it is not an obscure god who launches its "after sales service" to start repairs!This is what I reproach you for, you confuse dogma and science considering the self-organization of the living as a fact whereas it is only supposition, which some researchers try to demonstrate, but without convincing result.
To see it with his eyes! This is the main argument of the creation hypothesis and therefore of an ability to produce complex mechanisms, visible in their achievements, allowing living things to stay alive. Nothing to do with self-organization because the complexity, which the sciences in biology describe more and more precisely ... can not owe anything to chance.
Major nuance!What has not yet been 100% demonstrated is the self-organization of non-living structures into living structures, nuance!
But not 100%, but 0%. In this area, there are no missing intermediate links. We are alive or we are not!
your two references are not evidence but just theories applicable to materials physics and chemistry, not alive itself!Let the time for scientific research to show us all this, however in terms theoretical this concept has long been acquired.
Either you ask for proofs, and you have to do the same for your assertions, or else we stick to hypotheses, theories and other beliefs and everything is fine like that!
Lots of theories, which have been confronted with the reality that a hyper complex world, have broken their faces miserably.
The idea that is beginning to develop is that of quantum biology, which moves away from the strictly mechanistic vision that we still find in Darwinism.
[*] On this subject, from the quantum world, this video of Aurelien Barrau among others by the same author (who says: I believe that… Him too!) While affirming his ignorance, which does not prevent it from being particularly interesting:
already mentioned.