A doctor's testimony about his medical practice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr2yTRYMQrw
In summary, he moved, after obtaining his state diploma, in a small country village where he immediately noticed bronchiolitis and other repetitive inflammations, of the same kind, in children seen in consultations.
Disarmed in terms of conventional medicine, he tried homeopathy without more success, to change the diet of babies without much difference, then he came up with the idea of the precocity of vaccines injected into very small babies and he asked so parents, who want to, wait at least 6 months before practicing these vaccines and these bronchiolitis and others disappear on their own. He was therefore not opposed to vaccines but to their precocity, it is important! as he points out, he was born between 10 and 20 children a year to multiply by his years of exercise, that makes hundreds of children closely monitored.
Hence his logical reaction that it is the early vaccines that generate these diseases.
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and even more, always more: *
Topic: Vaccines produced by Génie Génétique Tue 3 Jan - 3:02
Michael GEORGET
Honorary Professor of Preparatory Classes for French Grandes Ecoles
January 2003
Vaccines produced by Genetic Engineering
Recombinant DNA techniques are used to modify the genome of living things (plants, animals, microorganisms) in order to change their physical, physiological, metabolic characteristics. It is thus possible to use genetically modified microorganisms to produce biological substances for therapeutic use as well as vaccines. This technique has made it possible to manufacture vaccines with a chimeric genetic heritage by inserting genes, coding for proteins recognized by the immune system, in support microorganisms. Vaccines are thus produced for animals, for example against rabies, rinderpest, bovine leukosis, Newcastle disease of poultry. Such chimeric vaccines have also been designed for humans. A vaccine against rotaviruses, responsible for many diarrheas around the world, has been obtained by associating human genes with a simian strain of rotavirus. Put on the market in the United States, it was withdrawn in disaster because infants were suffering from diverticulosis. But the best known example of recombinant vaccines is that of hepatitis B vaccines (GenHevac B®, Engerix B®, HBVax DNA® or Recombivax®). The technique here consists in producing, by a cellular system, the surface protein of the hepatitis B virus (HBs) by means of a recombinant plasmid introduced into these cells.
GenHevac B® case
The recombinant plasmid (designated by pSVS dhfr) comprises:
- The support plasmid: Bolivar and Rodriguez plasmid (pBR322) originating from Escherichia coli and comprising its origin of replication and a gene for resistance to ampicillin,
- The hepatitis B virus S gene (with the pre-S2 sequence), placed under the control of the strong promoter of the simian virus SV40,
- The dhfr marker gene, allowing the synthesis of dihydrofolate reductase, placed under the control of the mouse mammary tumor virus (MMTV),
- This plasmid is then cloned into bacteria, the ampicillin resistance gene making it possible to sort out the bacteria that have incorporated the plasmids.
Transfection and expression of plasmids
The plasmids are then transfected into cells of continuous CHO dhfr- line (originating from Chinese hamster ovary and deficient in dihydrofolate reductase). After transfection, the cell cultures are treated with methotrexate. The cells which have incorporated the plasmid pSVS dhfr resist this treatment and can translate the gene of interest S.
Other hepatitis B vaccines
Engerix B® and HBvax DNA® (or Recombivax®) are produced on the same principle but with a few differences: absence of the pre-S2 sequence in the recombinant plasmid, use of yeasts in place of CHO cells (which has two consequences linked to the specific functional activity of yeasts: non-glycosylation of the HBs proteins obtained, need for grinding due to the absence of exocytosis of the products produced).
THE RISKS
The risks are linked to both the culture media and the techniques of genetic engineering and essentially concern in both cases the contamination of the final product with DNA.
This DNA is potentially carcinogenic:
- on the one hand because it can contain residues with carcinogenic consequences (it should be remembered that cells of continuous line type CHO have the characteristics of cancer cells: abnormal karyotype, loss of contact inhibition),
- on the other hand, and above all, because DNA can, by integrating into the genome of our cells, reactivate a proto-oncogene or inactivate an anti-oncogene. This risk is all the more worrying as in the DNA impurities can be found the viral sequences used for the preparation of the recombinant plasmid, in particular the promoters.
A group of experts convened by the WHO in 1986 had mentioned the risk of "malignancy which a heterogeneous contaminating DNA could present in the long term, in particular if it turns out to contain potentially oncogenic coding or regulatory sequences. "Because of these risks, the WHO has set the acceptable limit dose at 100 pg of DNA per purified dose, a limit raised in 1998 to 10 ng. Hepatitis B vaccines contain between 1 and 30 µg per dose. Does this mean that a quantity as small as a picogram is safe? Certainly not when we know that this represents a billion base pairs of DNA and that the size of a viral promoter does not exceed 20 to 40 base pairs.
The experts, authors of technical report 747 (1987) declared moreover very cautiously: "Several points must be taken into account when making these risk estimates:
First, all calculations are based on the assumption that the risk factor for tumor induction decreases linearly with the concentration of DNA. This assumption is not necessarily correct, since a quantity of DNA which has no measurable biological effect in a standardized test because it is present at too low a concentration, can nevertheless have an effect in certain conditions or on certain organs or tissues.
Second, it is not yet known whether the risk associated with repeated exposure to DNA will act cumulatively or not.
Third, consideration should be given to the possibility that DNA preparations which do not induce tumors in experimental systems may cause changes in humans which may increase the incidence of the development of tumors after long periods of latency.
Fourth, experiments conducted on short-lived animals do not allow an assessment of the long-term effects of acquired DNA sequences. "
Protein contamination
The operations of construction of the recombinant plasmids require the use of various enzymes among which the deoxynucleotidyl terminal transferase (dTT) capable of adding nucleotides to DNA without the presence of template and thus causing mutations. Engerix B® vaccines contained it. Do they still contain it? Hepatitis vaccines are more or less loaded with impurities (between 1 and 5%), probably protein for the most part, without anyone knowing what it is. Enzymes? Transforming proteins? Are all these molecules deactivated?
Disadvantages of co-amplification
After transfection, a co-amplification phenomenon occurs, between the S and dhfr genes, stimulated by treatments with increasing dose of methotrexate. Unfortunately, these amplification systems have a major drawback, that of causing genetic rearrangements (translocations, deletions). Some of these events can occur in the DNA sequence coding for the desired protein and lead to the production of an altered protein, potentially dangerous during therapeutic use. Could this be the beginning of an explanation for the numerous disorders observed in subjects vaccinated against hepatitis B? The disorders observed after vaccination against hepatitis B are quite comparable to the complications of hepatitis B itself. Accidents are very diverse and can affect most organs:
- in the first row, neurological accidents: multiple sclerosis, leukoencephalitis, transverse myelitis, acute cerebellar ataxia, polyneuropathy,
- eye accidents, in particular occlusions of the central retinal vein, - muscular accidents: macrophage myofasciitis (muscle and joint pain, intense fatigue),
- bone and joint accidents,
- dermatological accidents: lichen planus, various erythemas, alopecia,
- kidney accidents: glomerulonephritis,
- cardiovascular accidents: vasculitis, knotty periarteritis,
- blood accidents: thrombocytopenic purpura,
- autoimmune diseases: systemic lupus erythematosus, insulin-dependent diabetes.
Two causes can be at the origin of these accidents:
- The first is immunological.The hepatitis B virus is not cytopathogenic, the destruction of hepatocytes would result from the immune reaction and the complications of the disease would result from deposits of immune complexes triggering an inflammatory reaction and destruction tissues, where the deposit occurred. Large complexes are normally destroyed by macrophages, but if the affinity between antigen and antibody is low, the immune complexes are small, soluble, and eventually settle without being destroyed. A special case is that of macrophage myofasciitis, due to an accumulation, in the connective tissue of the injected muscle, of macrophages containing aluminum crystals (used as an adjuvant of the vaccine). It follows a permanent activation of the immune system.
- The second cause would be molecular mimicry between elements of the virus (or vaccine) and molecules of the organism, for example in demyelinating attacks. In addition, gamma interferon, produced during the immune reaction, causes the expression of HLA II molecules by cells which do not usually express them. These cells then become capable of presenting to the immune system unusual peptides which are no longer recognized as part of the self, hence their destruction. A mechanism of this type is probably the cause of insulin-dependent diabetes. Various HLA haplotypes predispose to autoimmune diseases: A1, B8, DR3 for autoimmunity in general, A3, B7, DR2 for multiple sclerosis, B8 and / or DR3 for impaired eliminating function of immune complexes by macrophages. These disorders have been regularly published, especially since the compulsory vaccination of medical personnel (1991) and the major vaccination campaigns of 1994-95, both in international journals (including The Lancet, New England Journal of Medicine, British Medical Journal , Science, Neurology, Journal of Hepatology, American Journal of Ophtalmology, Journal of Rheumatology, Clinical Nephrology, Nephron, American Journal of Epidemiology, Muscle and Nerve), only French (La Presse Médicale, Archives de Pédiatrie, Revue de Médecine interne). The precise quantitative evaluation of these accidents is difficult because pharmacovigilance only identifies a small part of them (between 1 and 10%). For example, in the "intensive" follow-up of the school vaccination campaign, 99% of high school students included in the surveillance program were lost to follow-up, only 100 out of 10 having been followed up after three years. Officially, according to its report of May 000, 21, AFSSAPS identified 2002 demyelinating disorders (including 1149 multiple sclerosis and 802 amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), 36 autoimmune thrombocytopenia and 43 medullary aplasia. The REVAHB (association of victims) has also identified 14 deaths, 24 autoimmune pathologies (including 319 polyarthritis, 103 lupus, 44 type 41 diabetes, 1 spondylarthrites). E39M (association of victims of macrophagic myofasciitis) has identified 3 cases of myofasciitis and it is currently diagnosed about 160 per week.
Recombinant DNA techniques make it possible to manufacture numerous molecules for therapeutic use. If it is conceivable, despite the risks, to use them to treat patients especially when the life prognosis is at stake, is this also admissible for vaccines, injected into healthy subjects who may never contract the disease from which we want to protect them. There is a major information deficit in this area which does not allow citizens to make an informed and responsible free choice.
http://sfc.forumactif.com/t1317-les-vac ... -genetique
It is clear that zozos like the infernal trio can, with good reason, make fun of anti GMOs for plants and be pro genetic engineering for animals including humans!
NB: I am still amazed by the high number of subjects on vaccines and aluminum which together make 91.980 views. Too bad there is not an active participation so far!
Topic: Vaccines produced by Génie Génétique Tue 3 Jan - 3:02
Michael GEORGET
Honorary Professor of Preparatory Classes for French Grandes Ecoles
January 2003
Vaccines produced by Genetic Engineering
Recombinant DNA techniques are used to modify the genome of living things (plants, animals, microorganisms) in order to change their physical, physiological, metabolic characteristics. It is thus possible to use genetically modified microorganisms to produce biological substances for therapeutic use as well as vaccines. This technique has made it possible to manufacture vaccines with a chimeric genetic heritage by inserting genes, coding for proteins recognized by the immune system, in support microorganisms. Vaccines are thus produced for animals, for example against rabies, rinderpest, bovine leukosis, Newcastle disease of poultry. Such chimeric vaccines have also been designed for humans. A vaccine against rotaviruses, responsible for many diarrheas around the world, has been obtained by associating human genes with a simian strain of rotavirus. Put on the market in the United States, it was withdrawn in disaster because infants were suffering from diverticulosis. But the best known example of recombinant vaccines is that of hepatitis B vaccines (GenHevac B®, Engerix B®, HBVax DNA® or Recombivax®). The technique here consists in producing, by a cellular system, the surface protein of the hepatitis B virus (HBs) by means of a recombinant plasmid introduced into these cells.
GenHevac B® case
The recombinant plasmid (designated by pSVS dhfr) comprises:
- The support plasmid: Bolivar and Rodriguez plasmid (pBR322) originating from Escherichia coli and comprising its origin of replication and a gene for resistance to ampicillin,
- The hepatitis B virus S gene (with the pre-S2 sequence), placed under the control of the strong promoter of the simian virus SV40,
- The dhfr marker gene, allowing the synthesis of dihydrofolate reductase, placed under the control of the mouse mammary tumor virus (MMTV),
- This plasmid is then cloned into bacteria, the ampicillin resistance gene making it possible to sort out the bacteria that have incorporated the plasmids.
Transfection and expression of plasmids
The plasmids are then transfected into cells of continuous CHO dhfr- line (originating from Chinese hamster ovary and deficient in dihydrofolate reductase). After transfection, the cell cultures are treated with methotrexate. The cells which have incorporated the plasmid pSVS dhfr resist this treatment and can translate the gene of interest S.
Other hepatitis B vaccines
Engerix B® and HBvax DNA® (or Recombivax®) are produced on the same principle but with a few differences: absence of the pre-S2 sequence in the recombinant plasmid, use of yeasts in place of CHO cells (which has two consequences linked to the specific functional activity of yeasts: non-glycosylation of the HBs proteins obtained, need for grinding due to the absence of exocytosis of the products produced).
THE RISKS
The risks are linked to both the culture media and the techniques of genetic engineering and essentially concern in both cases the contamination of the final product with DNA.
This DNA is potentially carcinogenic:
- on the one hand because it can contain residues with carcinogenic consequences (it should be remembered that cells of continuous line type CHO have the characteristics of cancer cells: abnormal karyotype, loss of contact inhibition),
- on the other hand, and above all, because DNA can, by integrating into the genome of our cells, reactivate a proto-oncogene or inactivate an anti-oncogene. This risk is all the more worrying as in the DNA impurities can be found the viral sequences used for the preparation of the recombinant plasmid, in particular the promoters.
A group of experts convened by the WHO in 1986 had mentioned the risk of "malignancy which a heterogeneous contaminating DNA could present in the long term, in particular if it turns out to contain potentially oncogenic coding or regulatory sequences. "Because of these risks, the WHO has set the acceptable limit dose at 100 pg of DNA per purified dose, a limit raised in 1998 to 10 ng. Hepatitis B vaccines contain between 1 and 30 µg per dose. Does this mean that a quantity as small as a picogram is safe? Certainly not when we know that this represents a billion base pairs of DNA and that the size of a viral promoter does not exceed 20 to 40 base pairs.
The experts, authors of technical report 747 (1987) declared moreover very cautiously: "Several points must be taken into account when making these risk estimates:
First, all calculations are based on the assumption that the risk factor for tumor induction decreases linearly with the concentration of DNA. This assumption is not necessarily correct, since a quantity of DNA which has no measurable biological effect in a standardized test because it is present at too low a concentration, can nevertheless have an effect in certain conditions or on certain organs or tissues.
Second, it is not yet known whether the risk associated with repeated exposure to DNA will act cumulatively or not.
Third, consideration should be given to the possibility that DNA preparations which do not induce tumors in experimental systems may cause changes in humans which may increase the incidence of the development of tumors after long periods of latency.
Fourth, experiments conducted on short-lived animals do not allow an assessment of the long-term effects of acquired DNA sequences. "
Protein contamination
The operations of construction of the recombinant plasmids require the use of various enzymes among which the deoxynucleotidyl terminal transferase (dTT) capable of adding nucleotides to DNA without the presence of template and thus causing mutations. Engerix B® vaccines contained it. Do they still contain it? Hepatitis vaccines are more or less loaded with impurities (between 1 and 5%), probably protein for the most part, without anyone knowing what it is. Enzymes? Transforming proteins? Are all these molecules deactivated?
Disadvantages of co-amplification
After transfection, a co-amplification phenomenon occurs, between the S and dhfr genes, stimulated by treatments with increasing dose of methotrexate. Unfortunately, these amplification systems have a major drawback, that of causing genetic rearrangements (translocations, deletions). Some of these events can occur in the DNA sequence coding for the desired protein and lead to the production of an altered protein, potentially dangerous during therapeutic use. Could this be the beginning of an explanation for the numerous disorders observed in subjects vaccinated against hepatitis B? The disorders observed after vaccination against hepatitis B are quite comparable to the complications of hepatitis B itself. Accidents are very diverse and can affect most organs:
- in the first row, neurological accidents: multiple sclerosis, leukoencephalitis, transverse myelitis, acute cerebellar ataxia, polyneuropathy,
- eye accidents, in particular occlusions of the central retinal vein, - muscular accidents: macrophage myofasciitis (muscle and joint pain, intense fatigue),
- bone and joint accidents,
- dermatological accidents: lichen planus, various erythemas, alopecia,
- kidney accidents: glomerulonephritis,
- cardiovascular accidents: vasculitis, knotty periarteritis,
- blood accidents: thrombocytopenic purpura,
- autoimmune diseases: systemic lupus erythematosus, insulin-dependent diabetes.
Two causes can be at the origin of these accidents:
- The first is immunological.The hepatitis B virus is not cytopathogenic, the destruction of hepatocytes would result from the immune reaction and the complications of the disease would result from deposits of immune complexes triggering an inflammatory reaction and destruction tissues, where the deposit occurred. Large complexes are normally destroyed by macrophages, but if the affinity between antigen and antibody is low, the immune complexes are small, soluble, and eventually settle without being destroyed. A special case is that of macrophage myofasciitis, due to an accumulation, in the connective tissue of the injected muscle, of macrophages containing aluminum crystals (used as an adjuvant of the vaccine). It follows a permanent activation of the immune system.
- The second cause would be molecular mimicry between elements of the virus (or vaccine) and molecules of the organism, for example in demyelinating attacks. In addition, gamma interferon, produced during the immune reaction, causes the expression of HLA II molecules by cells which do not usually express them. These cells then become capable of presenting to the immune system unusual peptides which are no longer recognized as part of the self, hence their destruction. A mechanism of this type is probably the cause of insulin-dependent diabetes. Various HLA haplotypes predispose to autoimmune diseases: A1, B8, DR3 for autoimmunity in general, A3, B7, DR2 for multiple sclerosis, B8 and / or DR3 for impaired eliminating function of immune complexes by macrophages. These disorders have been regularly published, especially since the compulsory vaccination of medical personnel (1991) and the major vaccination campaigns of 1994-95, both in international journals (including The Lancet, New England Journal of Medicine, British Medical Journal , Science, Neurology, Journal of Hepatology, American Journal of Ophtalmology, Journal of Rheumatology, Clinical Nephrology, Nephron, American Journal of Epidemiology, Muscle and Nerve), only French (La Presse Médicale, Archives de Pédiatrie, Revue de Médecine interne). The precise quantitative evaluation of these accidents is difficult because pharmacovigilance only identifies a small part of them (between 1 and 10%). For example, in the "intensive" follow-up of the school vaccination campaign, 99% of high school students included in the surveillance program were lost to follow-up, only 100 out of 10 having been followed up after three years. Officially, according to its report of May 000, 21, AFSSAPS identified 2002 demyelinating disorders (including 1149 multiple sclerosis and 802 amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), 36 autoimmune thrombocytopenia and 43 medullary aplasia. The REVAHB (association of victims) has also identified 14 deaths, 24 autoimmune pathologies (including 319 polyarthritis, 103 lupus, 44 type 41 diabetes, 1 spondylarthrites). E39M (association of victims of macrophagic myofasciitis) has identified 3 cases of myofasciitis and it is currently diagnosed about 160 per week.
Recombinant DNA techniques make it possible to manufacture numerous molecules for therapeutic use. If it is conceivable, despite the risks, to use them to treat patients especially when the life prognosis is at stake, is this also admissible for vaccines, injected into healthy subjects who may never contract the disease from which we want to protect them. There is a major information deficit in this area which does not allow citizens to make an informed and responsible free choice.
http://sfc.forumactif.com/t1317-les-vac ... -genetique
It is clear that zozos like the infernal trio can, with good reason, make fun of anti GMOs for plants and be pro genetic engineering for animals including humans!
NB: I am still amazed by the high number of subjects on vaccines and aluminum which together make 91.980 views. Too bad there is not an active participation so far!
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Antivaxx victim https://www.lequotidiendumedecin.fr/act ... aca_849579
Re-re-ouarf! It happens to make your little gray cells work, as Hercule Poirot says (the advantage of having an extended culture !!!)
You are already once again confusing antivax and respect for human and citizen rights and related laws. Not wanting to smoke does not mean being anti tobacco, but that the right not to be smoked is respected.
To pretend, without proof, that the vaccination of one protects the other is like pretending that if 90% of bikers wore a motorcycle helmet, it would avoid the accidents of others, it is stupid as reasoning!
On June 13, a PCR analysis showed that it was a measles. " Her state of health then deteriorated and she died on June 27, ”added the AP-HM. "The rest of his family are being watched, and no other cases have occurred since. »
So let's analyze the situation. " The rest of his family is watched, and no other case has occurred since. "How: this girl did not contaminate the rest of her family, brothers, sisters, parents, unvaccinated, nor the entourage (which we do not know more if he was vaccinated!) since no other case has not appeared since. Are we lying about the dangerous contamination due to measles?
It is therefore, as usual, anxiety-provoking information with no real basis for big pharma through its medical academy.
Let's go on :
a very rare form
As the PACA ARS reports in The Daily, “It is a very rare form of measles. The girl, who belongs to a community of Travelers, had not been vaccinated. She had no other complications than that due to measles. "
This death is part of a worrying context of resurgence of measles (35 people have died in Europe in the past 12 months, announced WHO in mid-July)
at) " it is a form very rare measles. »
What certifies that this case very rare would have been prevented by a vaccination going everywhere. The flu changes every year and one person's vaccine does not protect others.
b) A small calculation: Europe has 750 million inhabitants (510 for the European Union alone) and therefore 35 deaths gives 0.005 / 100.000, that is to say not even a background noise. It must be compared to the deaths from cancer (50.000 / 100.000) from cardiovascular diseases and from all the others including iatrogens and nosocomials.
We are no longer in science but in superstition! The crucifixes have been replaced by syringes; the priests by “scientists” also convinced of their infallibility and the churches by labs.
Vouahhh, that's change!
while they were there, they could also have claimed that (on a supposed family (?) of 4 people) the mortality was 25%, (25.000 / 100.000) it's much more impressive!
In conclusion: having reason to believe does not mean that we have to believe it (I already read that somewhere, but where?)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZrJjTklsIg
on brain imaging and vaccinations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8CAdtjVVo
and for those who are interested in the stammering of Marisol Touraine who is completely lost in what she obviously ignores!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4kY3Ux ... 01.4249088
death after hexavalent vaccination in Germany, autopsy on infants
To follow on the victims of Gardasil, not pretty, pretty!
on brain imaging and vaccinations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8CAdtjVVo
and for those who are interested in the stammering of Marisol Touraine who is completely lost in what she obviously ignores!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4kY3Ux ... 01.4249088
death after hexavalent vaccination in Germany, autopsy on infants
To follow on the victims of Gardasil, not pretty, pretty!
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gardasil! to begin
Gardasil vaccine report: 25 victims, including 132 deaths and 110 infirm.
Posted by Jean-Jacques Bourguignon on June 22, 2013, 10:41 am
Categories: # Gardasil-Cervarix Danger Vaccine
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Gardasil vaccine report: 25 victims, including 132 deaths and 110 infirm.
Received from Jean-Jacques Bourguignon, father of Océane, victim of Gardasil, who manifests his justified anger
Gardasil®
A vaccine with potentially dramatic side effects, with unprecedented efficacy, marketed with great publicity ...
The victims are more and more. However, this papillomavirus vaccine is still sold and reimbursed, under the "high surveillance" of Afssaps
The latest data from VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System), the American pharmacovigilance registry, is increasingly worrying:
- in August 2011, there were 23 victims, including 388 infirm and 763 deaths;
- in October, there were 23, including 982 disabled and 780 deaths;
- and in November, 24 victims, including 184 invalids and 789 deaths, without counting the approximately 108 victims who have still not recovered their normal functions.
- Finally, according to the latest news, in March 2012, there were 25 victims, including 132 deaths and 110 invalids.
in summary, a hundred PA MONTHS dead and thousands of invalids!
and meanwhile in France
http://www.agoravox.fr/actualites/sante ... r-l-150584
Gardasil vaccine report: 25 victims, including 132 deaths and 110 infirm.
Posted by Jean-Jacques Bourguignon on June 22, 2013, 10:41 am
Categories: # Gardasil-Cervarix Danger Vaccine
securedownload-copier-7.jpg
Gardasil vaccine report: 25 victims, including 132 deaths and 110 infirm.
Received from Jean-Jacques Bourguignon, father of Océane, victim of Gardasil, who manifests his justified anger
Gardasil®
A vaccine with potentially dramatic side effects, with unprecedented efficacy, marketed with great publicity ...
The victims are more and more. However, this papillomavirus vaccine is still sold and reimbursed, under the "high surveillance" of Afssaps
The latest data from VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System), the American pharmacovigilance registry, is increasingly worrying:
- in August 2011, there were 23 victims, including 388 infirm and 763 deaths;
- in October, there were 23, including 982 disabled and 780 deaths;
- and in November, 24 victims, including 184 invalids and 789 deaths, without counting the approximately 108 victims who have still not recovered their normal functions.
- Finally, according to the latest news, in March 2012, there were 25 victims, including 132 deaths and 110 invalids.
in summary, a hundred PA MONTHS dead and thousands of invalids!
and meanwhile in France
http://www.agoravox.fr/actualites/sante ... r-l-150584
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little interlude on the "independence" of another minister vis-à-vis the labs:
http://www.fakirpresse.info/Le-vrai-CV- ... e-Bachelot
So who's telling the truth? Wikipedia or the Ministry of Health?
And then we come across this document.
This is her old CV, when she was in the European Parliament in 2004. At the top, just under "born December 24, 1946 in Nevers", she details her "professional activity": "Delegate for medical information - ICI Pharma laboratories - from 1969 to 1976. Public Relations Officer at Soguipharm from 1984 to 1989. ”It was a pride, apparently, at the time: proof that she had worked in real life. That of the company ...
But why, then, hide it now? Why forget these twelve years, which still weigh in a (brief) career? Why this omission, when Roselyne Bachelot promises that "the transparency will be the most total, scrupulously followed"? Why this silence, when the law requires experts to declare their “conflicts of interest”?
http://www.fakirpresse.info/Le-vrai-CV- ... e-Bachelot
So who's telling the truth? Wikipedia or the Ministry of Health?
And then we come across this document.
This is her old CV, when she was in the European Parliament in 2004. At the top, just under "born December 24, 1946 in Nevers", she details her "professional activity": "Delegate for medical information - ICI Pharma laboratories - from 1969 to 1976. Public Relations Officer at Soguipharm from 1984 to 1989. ”It was a pride, apparently, at the time: proof that she had worked in real life. That of the company ...
But why, then, hide it now? Why forget these twelve years, which still weigh in a (brief) career? Why this omission, when Roselyne Bachelot promises that "the transparency will be the most total, scrupulously followed"? Why this silence, when the law requires experts to declare their “conflicts of interest”?
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The academies of medicine and pharmacy denounce the anti-vaccine remarks of Pr Montagnier and Joyeux
http://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/soigne ... 69224.html
http://www.academie-medecine.fr/communi ... pharmacie/
These two professors highlight in particular a link between certain vaccines and sudden infant death syndrome, a "link" scientifically refuted for at least 15 years.
"The remarks [made by Luc Montagnier and Henri Joyeux], which will not fail to introduce trouble among parents of young children, are unfounded and must be denied," said the two Academies in a joint statement. They "speak out forcefully against statements which have no scientific basis".
http://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/soigne ... 69224.html
http://www.academie-medecine.fr/communi ... pharmacie/
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Researchers want to fill the information gap for worried mothers.
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and re-advertising to promote vaccines which is not abnormal in itself as with any consumer product.
Obviously, I listened and re-listened to this piece of bravery from France inter, (radio which I also appreciate), but which, in this case, takes, through its host, bias for a path by not leaving, of course, no scientific space to real qualified opponents, too, in this area.
Or to criticize oneself saying against truths coming from a particular source of information by bringing its own against truth, that was not clarified by the debate (which was not one since the intervener was pro-vaccines)
a) On the eradication of smallpox which has not been done (whatever the journalist says who should keep better informed) by mass vaccination with resounding failures as recognized by the WHO, but by the isolation of patients and infectious outbreaks by simple hygiene measures (such as washing hands, avoiding public places, etc. for influenza)
b) This assumption that those who are not in favor of vaccinations, by their own choice, are not being anti-vaccinalist since everyone is free to do so or not, as for 14 member states of Europe which allow complete freedom of choice to their respective citizens by not imposing any vaccine and, more generally, having stopped imposing it. Likewise, infectious pathologies make fun of the borders and where everything that is not vaccinated in these countries is free to pass these without vaccination obligations (around 80 million people each year). In fact, the 90/95% of vaccinated necessary assumed by the Ministry of Health (subject to the influence of vaccine lobbies) is just a utopia that no one can ignore! So being for free will is not swallowing all the snakes pro or anti but being able to make a choice by comparison of each advantage and disadvantage. But to highlight all the positive aspects, by zapping "modestly" the disadvantages forgotten by the labs and the profiteers of the vaccine boon, it is dishonest. Indeed the bride is not as beautiful as promised (and especially promoted) and it is a duty of information and alert on both sides as for any product at risk. (that the general public does not know well or not at all)
c) Then the announced figure of 90/95% of the population to be protected, this is only inaccurate information. Indeed it is only the child population in these figures, not the total population of the country, that is to say that it is only a congruent portion of it since adults are reluctant to do on themselves what they let impose on their children. However, any vaccine with "official protection" limited in time and any not revaccinated then becomes a possible contaminating source. So when is the total obligation in these adults so cautious for themselves?
d) In addition, it is intellectually contradictory to assume the immaturity of the parents in terms of the health of their children, justifying an excessive obligation at a too young age, and moreover to consider them as mature to decide who will lead the reins of the country by their vote while the disproportion between the two is enormous.
e) Take up point by point the official untruths, or close to them, coming from individuals wanting to be judges and gone at the same time, it's shady. Can we expect a pro-nuclear discourse disqualifying their business? No ! Whistleblowers, groups that are not dependent on any system, are therefore needed so that information is as diverse as possible and not for the sole benefit of the media or economic or even political interests.
f) Autism: implicating Wakefield that Sansonetti declares bogus. However, history shows, on the contrary, that it is not ONE researcher, but an entire team that has worked on the subject and made the same observation between MMR and consecutive autisms. Clearly we find these cleverly orchestrated smear campaigns that an American court has recognized as effective and condemned the journalist "lying" and not Wakefield. But it is common in this environment that protects his interests.
g) Evidenced by the case of Montagnier who saw himself crowned with glory by thinking he had discovered the "virus" of AIDS and who has just become good for the trash (and bashing) since he claimed that this " virus ”was no worse than the others and a healthy lifestyle would be enough to get rid of it; and for good measure he espouses the thesis of another scientist on the memory of water: “Vade retro satanas !!!!! you screw up our business with your affirmations. ”
last point: "The academies of medicine and pharmacy denounce the anti-vaccine remarks of Pr Montagnier and Joyeux"no, Mr. Izentrop and his bogus quotes: Joyeux is not opposed to vaccines but to their sudden accumulation and their precocity which is far from being the same thing
and re-advertising to promote vaccines which is not abnormal in itself as with any consumer product.
Obviously, I listened and re-listened to this piece of bravery from France inter, (radio which I also appreciate), but which, in this case, takes, through its host, bias for a path by not leaving, of course, no scientific space to real qualified opponents, too, in this area.
Or to criticize oneself saying against truths coming from a particular source of information by bringing its own against truth, that was not clarified by the debate (which was not one since the intervener was pro-vaccines)
a) On the eradication of smallpox which has not been done (whatever the journalist says who should keep better informed) by mass vaccination with resounding failures as recognized by the WHO, but by the isolation of patients and infectious outbreaks by simple hygiene measures (such as washing hands, avoiding public places, etc. for influenza)
b) This assumption that those who are not in favor of vaccinations, by their own choice, are not being anti-vaccinalist since everyone is free to do so or not, as for 14 member states of Europe which allow complete freedom of choice to their respective citizens by not imposing any vaccine and, more generally, having stopped imposing it. Likewise, infectious pathologies make fun of the borders and where everything that is not vaccinated in these countries is free to pass these without vaccination obligations (around 80 million people each year). In fact, the 90/95% of vaccinated necessary assumed by the Ministry of Health (subject to the influence of vaccine lobbies) is just a utopia that no one can ignore! So being for free will is not swallowing all the snakes pro or anti but being able to make a choice by comparison of each advantage and disadvantage. But to highlight all the positive aspects, by zapping "modestly" the disadvantages forgotten by the labs and the profiteers of the vaccine boon, it is dishonest. Indeed the bride is not as beautiful as promised (and especially promoted) and it is a duty of information and alert on both sides as for any product at risk. (that the general public does not know well or not at all)
c) Then the announced figure of 90/95% of the population to be protected, this is only inaccurate information. Indeed it is only the child population in these figures, not the total population of the country, that is to say that it is only a congruent portion of it since adults are reluctant to do on themselves what they let impose on their children. However, any vaccine with "official protection" limited in time and any not revaccinated then becomes a possible contaminating source. So when is the total obligation in these adults so cautious for themselves?
d) In addition, it is intellectually contradictory to assume the immaturity of the parents in terms of the health of their children, justifying an excessive obligation at a too young age, and moreover to consider them as mature to decide who will lead the reins of the country by their vote while the disproportion between the two is enormous.
e) Take up point by point the official untruths, or close to them, coming from individuals wanting to be judges and gone at the same time, it's shady. Can we expect a pro-nuclear discourse disqualifying their business? No ! Whistleblowers, groups that are not dependent on any system, are therefore needed so that information is as diverse as possible and not for the sole benefit of the media or economic or even political interests.
f) Autism: implicating Wakefield that Sansonetti declares bogus. However, history shows, on the contrary, that it is not ONE researcher, but an entire team that has worked on the subject and made the same observation between MMR and consecutive autisms. Clearly we find these cleverly orchestrated smear campaigns that an American court has recognized as effective and condemned the journalist "lying" and not Wakefield. But it is common in this environment that protects his interests.
g) Evidenced by the case of Montagnier who saw himself crowned with glory by thinking he had discovered the "virus" of AIDS and who has just become good for the trash (and bashing) since he claimed that this " virus ”was no worse than the others and a healthy lifestyle would be enough to get rid of it; and for good measure he espouses the thesis of another scientist on the memory of water: “Vade retro satanas !!!!! you screw up our business with your affirmations. ”
last point: "The academies of medicine and pharmacy denounce the anti-vaccine remarks of Pr Montagnier and Joyeux"no, Mr. Izentrop and his bogus quotes: Joyeux is not opposed to vaccines but to their sudden accumulation and their precocity which is far from being the same thing
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