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by abyssin3 » 21/07/06, 19:01

Extract of Quanthomme:
http://quanthomme.free.fr/energieencore/carnet15.htm

"Diesel engine and hydrogen
The Hydrogen and Allied Renewable Technology research team at the University of Tasmania is developing an engine that runs on a mixture of diesel and hydrogen. The hydrogen-gas oil mixture is carried out in a single combustion chamber.
This new system, which is reminiscent of the Pantone system or the Jean-Marc Moreau system, has the capacity to reduce the fuel consumption of 80% and increase the engine power of 20%. Like Pantone, it offers the advantage of greatly reducing greenhouse gas emissions: the combustion of a mixture comprising 30% hydrogen would reduce emissions by approximately 70%. Similarly, it can be installed on any diesel engine, and very cheap, about 3000 AUD (Australian dollar) according to the inventors .... "
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by jlvx » 22/07/06, 12:48

Super, : Idea:

There is more to produce / store / distribute etc etc the hydrogen!

(unless the interplanetary industrial petro-industrial petrol plot comes to sabotage this novelty, and with the help of the Mossad, as long as it is done). : Mrgreen:
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by neant » 23/07/06, 05:38

it becomes annoying to see Hydrogen = energy
I really do not agree that hydrogen is a reliable future solution.

Hydrogen = energy consumption

Hydrogen production = energy consumption
And for the rest behind it comes down to losses, loss losses.

What is won on one side will be lost on the other.

As JPP has pointed out, if you want to use a gas with high thermodynamic performance in an engine, the safety asset is helium.
It could be produced in large quantities by the z-machine apparently and without adding dedicated machine for this purpose.
Except to recover it of course and store it.
Helium would be a rejection of the reaction.

Hydrogen, it explodes and it's hard to confine.
Helium too, but helium is not explosive.
That said, I like the idea of ​​mixing.
I am not a thermo specialist, but the goal with the addition of hydrogen is, in my opinion, to accelerate the speed of heat displacement within the engine; and not for its capabilities as fuel. Finally, it must be a little more complicated than it should be, it should be seen at the level of molecules that collide under the effect of heat.

Mix HVB + Helium, that must do it too. And without risks especially. Helium is neutral for the environment, it seems to me too.

Rattrap me if I say big bullshit!
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by Woodcutter » 19/09/06, 19:04

And uh ...... : Shock: what is the reaction that makes use of He to produce a driving force?

Hydrogen is a energy vector interesting in the sense or:
- it does not produce pollutant when using it.
it can be produced by flux energies and stored before use, thereby smoothing the intermittent nature of these energies.
- it is of use relatively flexible with technologies that do not require 10 or 20 years of technical progress to be employed,
- since its production-use cycle is very short, it will not fail.
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by elephant » 19/09/06, 23:27

Well yes, lumberjack, you're right.

moreover, helium is not a "zero-value" gas like argon, xenon, etc ...

and in addition you have already called "l'Air Liquide" to ask for the price : Cheesy: me if! Help !
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by Woodcutter » 20/09/06, 10:31

elephant wrote:Well yes, lumberjack, you're right.

moreover, helium is not a "zero-value" gas like argon, xenon, etc ...

and in addition you have already called "l'Air Liquide" to ask for the price : Cheesy: me if! Help !
The price of what? He or H2?

And for my question about the driving force? :?
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by jonule » 20/09/06, 11:26

currently hydrogen is mostly produced by oil, right?
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by Woodcutter » 20/09/06, 11:39

jonule wrote:currently hydrogen is mostly produced by oil, right?
It depends ... But the important thing is that it does not depend petrol.
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