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by vincent27 » 25/02/06, 15:57

Hello everybody

I am submitting a new post to ask all those who have experienced a Pantone for the results of their experiments:
Consumption before, after, power, oil changes, pollution, technical inspection, etc.

I have indeed not looked into the subject.
This will allow all those who experience something to locate themselves, to develop their systems.
It could also convince new experimenters to try the experiment.

We look forward to seeing you!
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by Christophe » 25/02/06, 17:52

Well I have already launched several times such a call for witnesses but without much success (not with regard to the results but feedback) :|

To tell you the truth in 2003 I even prepared a detailed form that I never used it for lack of motivation (not mine that of the experimenters ..)

Maybe this is the opportunity to fill out this form?

And if not your Minto proto? : Idea:
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by bolt » 25/02/06, 18:05

vincent27 wrote:It could also convince new experimenters to try the experiment.


it will depend on the answers:
tractor N ° 22: specific consumption divided by 5,5
André: up to 30%, but not all the time
PITMIX: big reduction in time to do something other than pantone

to convince, it is better to send them directly to quanthomme

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by gil67 » 26/02/06, 08:49

the tractor 22 should have been able to serve as a base for everyone. I never understood why the latter could not be contacted. We make such a mystery about it, I don't understand.
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by jean63 » 26/02/06, 11:20

Frankly, I look everywhere forum and except

- Andre who seems to master the subject (petrol and diesel), I fear that it is not very conclusive for the moment.

From what I read:

- lau is doing well (TOYOTA diesel),

- PITMIX does everything to make it work on his R5 gasoline: at least he communicates a lot about the development problems he encounters, asgard os tyr says that it works (diesel),

- do you drive did a very nice assembly on an OPEL Corsa, but is the result as beautiful on the assembly ?,

- bolt is top on a tractor (but here we know it works),

- babache8 did a montage but I don't know what,

- MichelM did an assembly (I believe) on a Mercedes 300 TD?

- rezut fitted a BX (diesel?)

...... I did not rate the others ..

: Arrow: Christophe : you should open a subject in "Experiments" that you would title "RECAPITULATIVE pantone montage" in which everyone would come and say what they did, where there are photos of their montage, what reduction in consumption and what problems they encountered and that it still meets in use, because all the comments on the montages are dispersed and we can no longer follow.

It would be necessary to send a message in their personal BAL (not that of econology) of each editor, asking them to come to make this summary in this subject.

As far as I'm concerned, I am PITMIX because we know exactly what it does and what pbs it encounters.

I hope that following my post, there will be lots of reactions and that the editors will come to moan against me saying: "and I did this ....", so that we will know a little more.

Wait and see.
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by PITMIX » 26/02/06, 11:32

Hello
Well for Christophe I think that in 2003 it was not the same state of mind. Today people are looking for ways to save fuel. Just see the rapeseed. However, it's been a long time since everyone knows that a diesel can run on oil.
Me in 2003 it was at this time that I discovered the thing on the net. It was more of a myth than a reality to me.
That's why I got into it in order to draw my own conclusions.
I would like to be at the analysis stage.
I think I am close to the goal but nothing certain.
For the moment no fuel economy.
For the rest I have to do the drain.
According to André, doping even if it does not work, cleans the engine.
We'll see that.
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by bolt » 26/02/06, 11:37

hello jean63

jean63 wrote:From what I read:
- bolt is top on a tractor (but here we know it works),


it will be necessary to read again

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by triumph » 26/02/06, 12:45

Hello
How do you want things to go ahead? No one gives their results in numerical terms, and some are ready to patent the ideas of others.
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by PITMIX » 26/02/06, 13:56

I only ask that it give figures but it does not work then what good. :?
Before mounting 10L per 100km in town, Today 10L per 100km in town.
Before 0,5% of CO slows down, Today -0,3% of CO due to the depletion created by the reactor.
Lack of luck there are a lot of people in my case on ce forum.
To my knowledge Zac, Christophe, André, and Rezut have a working reactor. The rest is nada or short montages.
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by triumph » 26/02/06, 14:13

Hello pitmix
Explain your assembly (length of the reactor, location,
diameter of the pipes and length… etc) temperature before and after reactor and temperature of the gases that you admit into the intake pipe, brief explanation of your assembly.
1 we can give you an idea.
2 this will avoid errors to the other
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