The renewable energy hydrogen car: the future?

[sen-no-sen]

(...) and we should tell the poor to ride a bike, or on foot .... those who do not work, they have time, why they would have a car? We have to divide the number of cars by 4 or 5 globally, to reduce the amount of pollution.

This is clearly the solution.
The current situation (1person = 1 vehicle) is an aberration.
In the future the solution lies in car-sharing, renting and cycling.

[Gaston]

In the future the solution lies in car-sharing, renting and cycling.

Given the excessive individualisation (or egoism) towards which society is oriented, it is badly engaged.

[Gaston]

But to make the H2 or to charge a battery, we start from the same resource: electricity. So there is no hope of accommodating poor returns for economic reasons.

The economic interest can be more global.

For example if a hydrogen truck can travel 1000 km per day by consuming 1000 € hydrogen (produced with 1000 € electricity, for simplicity) while an electric truck can make these 1000 km by consuming 200 € electricity ... but in two days, the time saved on transport can be worth the difference 800 €.

This is exactly the case when transporting objects by plane rather than by boat.

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

(...) and we should tell the poor to ride a bike, or on foot .... those who do not work, they have time, why they would have a car? We have to divide the number of cars by 4 or 5 globally, to reduce the amount of pollution.

This is clearly the solution.
The current situation (1person = 1 vehicle) is an aberration.
In the future the solution lies in car-sharing, renting and cycling.

Not always easy in the countryside ... when the distances and the weather conditions get involved ...

However in town I bounce on the use of two wheels (any mode of propulsion): instead of putting a spoke in the wheel should be put in value ... it seems to me.

[Ahmed]

Nico239, you write:

However in town I bounce on the use of two wheels (any mode of propulsion): instead of putting a spoke in the wheel should be put in value ... it seems to me.

Except that the automobile, especially in the city, represents the pinnacle of wastage, so of the contribution to the production of abstract value, which will never realize the bike ...
In this context, the bike represents essentially the outlet to the excess of automobiles, not a substitute solution, which allows the maintenance of the status quo ...

[sen-no-sen]

(...) and we should tell the poor to ride a bike, or on foot .... those who do not work, they have time, why they would have a car? We have to divide the number of cars by 4 or 5 globally, to reduce the amount of pollution.

This is clearly the solution.
The current situation (1person = 1 vehicle) is an aberration.
In the future the solution lies in car-sharing, renting and cycling.

Not always easy in the countryside ... when the distances and the weather conditions get involved ...

(...)

It is clear that this is not an easy exercise in the countryside.
But, when the car becomes a luxury that only some can afford, then the urban organization will evolve so that the use of the car is no longer necessary.
For example, mass retailing, so much criticized, is only the result of exponential automotive development.

[sen-no-sen]

In the future the solution lies in car-sharing, renting and cycling.

Given the excessive individualisation (or egoism) towards which society is oriented, it is badly engaged.

Given the scarcity of fossil energy and the accumulation of economic constraints, it seems to me on the contrary in the era of time.
Individualism is a consequence of the increase in energy dissipation.
When we benefit from hundreds of "energy slaves" (machines, cars etc ...) we necessarily need less of others ... while being entirely dependent on the production chain based on hyper specialization.

[Ahmed]

Indeed, the organization will evolve to allow the use of other modes of travel and also to limit them. On the other hand, new simple and adaptive solutions will develop as soon as they are no longer killed in the bud by competition from the current automotive solution.

[ENERC]

The current situation (1person = 1 vehicle) is an aberration.

Unfortunately, just go to the suburbs at 10 km from a train station. And what do we see?
2,3,4 or 5! cars by house.
And these cars do not make 3 km a day far from the. It is often 50km see 100km. The father, the mother and the (grand) children all go to a different place of work.

And I do not see myself cycling on the national 10 km without bike lane with vehicles that graze you to well over 90 km / h. Even with electric assistance.

We will not replace these many cases of use with bicycles. It is the urbanism that must be rethought if we want to remove these mostly diesel cars that leave from 5h30 to avoid traffic jams.

[sen-no-sen]

We will not replace these many cases of use with bicycles. It is the urbanism that must be rethought if we want to remove these mostly diesel cars that leave from 5h30 to avoid traffic jams.

Only if one considers the situation in a monolithic way.
The current system is based on energy mismanagement because of a guaranteed energy supply.
However, such situations can not be sustained for long and the scarcity should restore the balance.
Rethinking urban planning is simply not possible without such a prerequisite, so swim against the tide at the edge of Niagara Falls!