End of the 100 engine% diesel or gasoline to 2040 ???

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by moinsdewatt » 06/11/17, 19:37

Used cars: the announced crash of diesel

The Parisian 06 / 11 / 2017

Who wants to buy my diesel car? Many owners of vehicles that run on this fuel are starting to have serious concerns. According to a study carried out by the start-up Bonnie & Car, which specializes in the sale of used cars, diesel cars are no longer popular. Worse, they lose value.
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by moinsdewatt » 17/08/19, 23:59

MEPs vote for the end of the 2040 thermal vehicles

BOURSORAMA WITH AFP SERVICES 12 / 06 / 2019

The National Assembly has marked the end of the sale of vehicles running on gasoline, diesel and natural gas by 20 years. Conversely, MEPs rejected the idea of ​​banning advertising for cars.

France will soon say goodbye to thermal cars. On Tuesday, June 11, MEPs validated the stop of the sale of fossil fuel vehicles in 2040. The measure, adopted by 62 votes against 6 and 17 abstentions, was part of the draft law LOM (law orientation of mobilities). It must achieve carbon neutrality in land transport by 2050.

"France has met the urgency of the climate challenge, and our majority is showing its determination to ambitiously and credibly commit our transport to the path of clean mobility", welcomed the Minister of Transport Élisabeth Borne. in a press release.

What temporality to adopt?
A few days earlier, the co-rapporteur of the text, the deputy LREM Jean-Luc Fugit had defended the deadline of 2040, estimating that a deadline "in 2025 or 2030" would leave "too little time for the actors" to be adapt. Faced with him, the former Minister of Ecology Delphine Batho had brought several amendments to bring the ban back to 2030. A proposal defended by the socialist Dominique Potier, who in vain called on the government and the majority "to be more radicals "in the fight against global warming.

No ban on advertising cars
In addition, the proposal to gradually ban advertising for polluting vehicles, carried by Delphine Batho and ex-LREM Matthieu Orphelin, was not retained. The rapporteur deemed the measure "excessive", recalling that MEPs had already included a message in advertisements encouraging cleaner mobility.


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by Petrus » 18/08/19, 17:20

What a band of horns!
We vote a prohibition of sale in 20 years (which does not engage the voters) but to take immediate action, even as minimal as a ban on advertising for the most polluting vehicles: oh no, it's too radical, MDR!
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by Remundo » 18/08/19, 17:42

they are indeed bricks who vote ideological laws, non-engaging and inept.

it would be better to impose lower and lower CO2 emission thresholds and let the manufacturers propose the relevant technical solutions,

a biofuel hybrid car + renewable electricity for example is much better than a lithium-ion tank that turns with nucleo-carbon electrons ...

the debate is not even about cars, but about the energy mix.
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by GuyGadebois » 18/08/19, 18:28

Remundo wrote:they are indeed bricks who vote ideological laws, non-engaging and inept.

They want to shoot the diesel, not because it's polluting, but because a direct injection engine, even though it pollutes even more, is lighter, cheaper to produce and therefore, the margins are greater. Here we see all the collusion between the politicians and the industrialists who impose on peoples what suits them, even if they lie outright.
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by sicetaitsimple » 18/08/19, 19:54

GuyGadebois wrote:They want to shoot the diesel, not because it's polluting, but because a direct injection engine, even though it pollutes even more, is lighter, cheaper to produce and therefore, the margins are greater. Here we see all the collusion between the politicians and the industrialists who impose on peoples what suits them, even if they lie outright.


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by GuyGadebois » 18/08/19, 20:24

sicetaitsimple wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:They want to shoot the diesel, not because it's polluting, but because a direct injection engine, even though it pollutes even more, is lighter, cheaper to produce and therefore, the margins are greater. Here we see all the collusion between the politicians and the industrialists who impose on peoples what suits them, even if they lie outright.


You'll take a little Ricard?

I would be too scared to look like you ...
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by sicetaitsimple » 18/08/19, 22:13

GuyGadebois wrote:[
They want to shoot the diesel, not because it's polluting, but because a direct injection engine, even though it pollutes even more, is lighter, cheaper to produce and therefore, the margins are greater. Here we see all the collusion between the politicians and the industrialists who impose on peoples what suits them, even if they lie outright.


At this time (22: 12), you'll take a little cognac?
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by Remundo » 19/08/19, 00:39

from the CO2 point of view, the diesel engine pollutes less than gasoline.

while the increase in taxes on diesel had been presented as the fight against global warming ...
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by ENERC » 21/08/19, 18:29

They want to shoot the diesel, not because it's polluting, but because a direct injection engine, even though it pollutes even more, is lighter, cheaper to produce and therefore, the margins are greater. Here we see all the collusion between the politicians and the industrialists who impose on peoples what suits them, even if they lie outright.
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GuyGadebois is unfortunately right:
"The Brussels-based NGO has selected three compact sedans driven by gasoline direct injection engines - the 1.0 Ecoboost, the Ford Focus Tourer, the Hyundai i40 Kombi 1.6 GDI and the Renault Mégane 1.2 TCE - to measure pollutant emissions. The result is impressive: on the current NEDC homologation cycle, these petrol cars emit between 4 and 8 times more particles (in number) than the currently authorized standard ... for diesel engines. And even up to ten times more for the Renault 1.2 TCE engine when measured on the US US 06 cycle, more realistic than the European NEDC. "

https://www.science-environnement.com/p ... ce-diesel/

In addition, direct injection particles are smaller and pass into the blood via the lungs. This is a big health scandal in preparation.
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