DIY: making an electric car

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by Remundo » 07/01/13, 00:00

chatelot16 wrote:So it only remains to tinker each in his corner without any profit to the country

Absolutely. We can not do better.

As soon as the EVs start to be numerous, they will be taxed severely.

And these offers to rent batteries with rolling stock ownership are smoky and not even interesting financially ...
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by chatelot16 » 07/01/13, 00:53

citro wrote:Sorry, but even if I'm proud of my 106 batteries that have 12 years of age, they start to blame the weight of years


I just answered a question on the subject
http://www.ni-cd.net/accusphp/forum/gen ... ageforum=1

maybe new potash could give them a new youth

I have already put back into service very old nickel iron battery this way
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by bidouille23 » 11/01/13, 02:51

SLut,

for which you would not have authorization builder until you do not ask you have nothing it is on ...

For my truck is the same for pierced the cabin yet the end you fall on the right person who fits you the cans, must be stubborn a little that's all ...

By cons what you say citro is much more boring and actually pushes to do what you say Chatelot, everyone for both and those around and nothing for the state, and in all areas ....

According to your source it would affect all electric vehicles, bike and vehicle traveling less than 45 km / h so then ???
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by BobFuck » 11/01/13, 08:28

chatelot16 wrote:if the state wanted to govern it should disseminate the right information to show what to do ... alas I feel that he is unable to govern so untrustworthy

So it only remains to tinker each in his corner without any profit to the country


Many inventions came out of the workshop of an anonymous guy who had a good idea: I have a lot of respect for these people (for example there is some in this subject!). The more inventors at work, the more likely they are to have useful inventions on the job. Note that I put the shadocks style JLN all the way down the pile ...

In short, as the state has no way of predicting the future, the only thing it can do is let researchers search, and motivate them by not preventing them from making money with their inventions. Obviously, the opposite is happening.

As for e-bikes, it's dead: you have to homologate the complete bike with engine and battery, with destructive tests. What makes illegal the assembly of a kit or the DIY, in practice only the mass-production is possible, with a big investment (tests of homologation, and several models to be destroyed). And alas, it will put unemployed excellent craftsmen who make custom bikes ... it's sad.
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by chatelot16 » 11/01/13, 17:06

we come to a problem of human rights!

freedom of expression is a joke ... the main thing that starts to fail is the freedom to invent to work and sell!

at the beginning of the automobile there was no need to know how to make an entire automobile to sell ... some started by adding chassis and buying engines on one side and gearboxes on the other

today everything is locked: we are forced to be rolled by the big builder in place ... this lack of freedom is more and more serious

how can a country that has 3 millons of unemployed continue to ban invention and progress?

and it is only 3 millons officially counted ... if we look good it is much more
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by bidouille23 » 11/01/13, 17:24

SLut,

even the bikes .... :frown: :frown: , this says I have not seen any bike control by smooth skin to foam task yet :) , already that for mob kiter it was very rare there for the bike ... and the car without a license also, I bet that we risk nothing, they have something else to do our dear agents of the order, especially in the countryside ;) ....
For a bike frankly ...


As you say chatelot more than 3 million with a simple game of writing all the figures are variable ....

This says if they have by the principle that it is not the politicians but politicians in the service of their master that are the financiers and the big fortunes everything is explained ...

It is very sad but not impossible to overcome .... to look for treatment phyto pond, next to me a guy has made a 10 years ago without authorization, the mayor wanted to punish him, he has to bring the results of the analyzes of water, report it had a quality of exit superior to the water provided by the commune and better than the rain water ... since there no longer any problem ....
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by Gaston » 11/01/13, 17:29

bidouille23 wrote:It is very sad but not impossible to overcome .... to look for treatment phyto pond, next to me a guy has made a 10 years ago without authorization, the mayor wanted to punish him, he has to bring the results of the analyzes of water, report it had a quality of exit superior to the water provided by the commune and better than the rain water ... since there no longer any problem ....
For a car, proving that it is more (or more) safe than that of a manufacturer requires means other than a water analysis : Evil:

In fact, it requires the means ... of a builder :frown:
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by chatelot16 » 11/01/13, 18:11

of course you can put any electric motor on your bike, the gendarmes will never see anything, but it's still DIY in your corner ... if the thing is good you have to sell ... and the c is impossible to sell legally without respecting a jumble of regulation that ends up forbidding the novelty

and still you can put an electric motor that the police will not see ... but I day or you will be the victim of an accident, it is the one who will have crushed you who will have a good insurance and a good lawyer who will notice that your bike is not in conformity and will take advantage of it not to pay you what it owes you

the social struggle of this new century will be the right to work: the right to manufacture and sell what one knows how to do ... without being handicapped, being said for security and in reality to defend the position of big companies
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by bidouille23 » 11/01/13, 18:11

as much for me gaston, I misspoke, I spoke especially for a bike or a small car without a license (buying a homologated chassis for example it reduces the problems).

For large vehicles the problem remains whole is clear, suddenly it can all that is a review, all our way of living quickly ???

This says there are some amateur builders who have established themselves as a reference, I do not know what they call these sports car that are raging among the rich who do not know what to do with their money ...

If not leaving on a base of failure inevitably it does not help ... :)

Ok this is the course of the fighter but that I know the fighter does not all die in the fight;), and what does not kill you makes you stronger :) ...

So I think, but maybe it's wrong that anyone who wants can ....
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by Gaston » 14/01/13, 11:11

bidouille23 wrote:This says there are some amateur builders who have established themselves as a reference, I do not know what they call these sports car that are raging among the rich who do not know what to do with their money ...
And one can ask the question of knowing why the "small" manufacturers only make luxury cars?

Perhaps because the initial investment required to meet all the mandatory standards is so huge that if there are no large series, it can only be profitable with high prices.

Gold who buys expensive cars?
the rich who do not know what to do with their money
And what do they ask in return?
A luxury vehicle.

And for the bike (electric or not), we are reproducing the same diagram : Evil:
Soon there will be only manufacturers who can supply thousands of copies or a few craftsmen producing very high-end models.

bidouille23 wrote:So I think, but maybe it's wrong that anyone who wants can ....
Yes, he can also emigrate :?
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