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by YoBahri » 05/01/13, 00:01

moulino51 wrote:Petit Up:

Good evening YoBahri when news? :D :D


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Yes NEWS of all full. I became super famous in Turkey. All Tele radio and newspapers about my project.
Now that the cart runs very well, I wonder if I have to hire me to commercialize my project.

I receive a lot of proposals but I can not seem to decide.
WHAT TO DO ?
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by moulino51 » 05/01/13, 00:12

Good evening YoBahri,
YoBahri wrote:
moulino51 wrote:Petit Up:
Good evening YoBahri when news? :D :D

Yes NEWS of all full. I became super famous in Turkey. All Tele radio and newspapers about my project.

I saw your videos there a while, and I am a fan of your achievements and especially your positive mindset.
YoBahri wrote:Now that the cart runs great, I wonder if I have to hire me to commercialize my project.
I receive a lot of proposals but I can not seem to decide.
WHAT TO DO ?
I think in Turkey everything is much more open than in France, because here it is practically impossible to approve. (Nlc there he parviendrat with its Laguna?)

Take a look at VE, the subject just been relaunched.

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by bidouille23 » 05/01/13, 13:14

Hello,


Concerning the "homologation" which is not one but just an isolated reception (go to the site of the drire for all the details and the file).

You can also and above actually phoned to DRIRE (now dreal) and make an appointment with or drealman, who'll explain everything in detail.

Personally I'm going to spend my PL truck camper and when you look at the record at the beginning you got scared but really well it's not so complicated as that, it's just very simple logic, and you shall take things point by point.

In fact what is more complicated is that you have to do is a human who will not have necessarily already had it to do and that you'll look like loie of texts and draw its own conclusions (which of livers is not mieu of livers ...)

If not for wholesale summary, the case of a cart I would say he'll have to:

your engine does not exceed 4Kw and your car 45 km / h

that your braking is balanced and effective to stop the car for a distance ??? (But necessarily equal to the same distance as with the engine, for which you have less weight Priory (except battery can be) your braking will be only better)


That all your electrical system is clean, secure and nickel operation status.

That anything you add is set effectively so that it does not move.

and perhaps one or two small cose to complicate

the biggest was done at the circulation 1ere of the cart ...

In short there's no loss of life must stop making cheese with spaghetti ...

A phone is such dreal would avoid the many stories, and best of all this is that you are not required to go into the dreal of your department;), you may well ask sends the file in another department .... if you know what i mean .... :) we must use the law it is not for it;)?

For a car traveling at more than 45 km / h it's not the same story, even if this is not possible, look for terms of lpg kit, well you need a receipt isolated as well. ..


short if you prefer to go to Turkey for the implementation and eventual commercialization .... see each noon to his door.

Here at least I'd say you know the price of bribes;), a big smile, great humility and above all give powers to dreal controller and listen to his advice during the project installation and folder (that is too controlling;)), and much flatter his ego ....

In short will not deter the future reader into believing that it is impossible ...

Especially with a cart which ultimately boils down to:

question:

YObahri have you contacted the dreal near you?
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by chatelot16 » 05/01/13, 16:48

in the morass of law that exist we find everything we want: if the gus DRIRE regarded this as a modification of an existing vehicle will require authorization from the manufacturer ... not in general

so best be considered original builder of a new device and receiving isolated title

the problem is that it does not allow to hope for profitable sale sections for several work ... to make money it is better to go to another country

problem in other countries or the regulations are simpler there are fewer customers with money to spend

it is the same problem for receiving a title insulated trailer a swimming: you have an axle made for the trailer: it completely refuse the axles of recovery ... even if it is largely stronger than the trailer axle ... has less to do in terms of its car axle and say that we have realized itself ???

the problem with the DRIRE is that they are more satisfied that advice ... if you start adviser head the most complicated way to do it is fucked
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by I Citro » 06/01/13, 15:56

Things change very quickly in the microcosm of the electric car.
Standards are still evolving to lock the business model under security protection feature.

The battery rental will become mandatory, unless we manage to circumvent the legislation.

So, dear YoBahri hurry if you're spears. : Arrowl:
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by chatelot16 » 06/01/13, 17:25

it's scary what you said! with battery rental, it means that there would be an infamous trick to any electronic counting and pay tax like all other fuel ... the end of the main interest of the electricity

once taxed like other fuel the electricity no longer has any economic interest

although there will be no fee at the beginning, need to invest in an electric vehicle battery is leased, to get tax miserably few years later
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by Fakir » 06/01/13, 17:31

citro wrote:Things change very quickly in the microcosm of the electric car.
Standards are still evolving to lock the business model under security protection feature.
It's frightening ! you want the info from what source?
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by I Citro » 06/01/13, 22:14

Since 2011, the TIPP has been replaced by the TICPE in total indifference but with a purpose:
The name change (TIPP in TICPE) was motivated by the arrival of biofuels (E.85) and electric vehicles beyond the old TIPP. This potential taxation would with dedicated outlets that would interact with the meter.

The regulars of forum we have read many warnings from me on the subject in the topics on the electric car but also those on linky "smart" meters.

The tax will be progressive, as always difficult to accompany the growth of the electric vehicle.
I say and repeat that the vehicle is technically and economically viable.
The first brake to its development is due to heavy lobbying of oil and car manufacturers that do not want change an economic model that has so reported them. At a time when I speak, nothing has changed and actors who want to invest the Electromobility market is torn between for LA 1ère site (near Dallas was the Care Bears).

Electricity The interest is paramount to reduce pollution (urban) due to diesel (40.000 deaths per year) proved by the medical studies for over 20 years that the aforementioned lobbies have stifled. The economic value will exceed health disaster and improve the economic balance on imports of petroleum products.

The debate on battery leasing is more complex because it is an alternative to a heavy and uncertain investment because the new battery technologies have not yet been proven ...
1 / buy a vehicle with full ownership battery = take risks and pay more
2 / buy a car and rent the battery to reduce the initial investment but will not be master of economic depreciation of the whole.

I criticize the Renault rental contract for clauses that I consider unfair because the rental is linked to the vehicle whose ownership is no longer guaranteed because the manufacturer links its use to the rental (why buy the vehicle then, if we do not is not the owner of the "engine").

Anyway, and if use is perfectly targeted, an electric vehicle can be very profitable, especially for large rollers which quickly amortize the additional cost of the purchase.

If you dread the taxation of electricity vehicle, hurry to buy one before the implementation of tax measures, as I have already suggested.
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by chatelot16 » 06/01/13, 23:03

be owner of its battery is to take a risk with the chemistry and physics ... but it does not scare me! chemistry does not change overnight and never betrayed me

take the battery for rental that demand trust the lessor and the state ... and every man for himself ... the state already has often rolled ...

the electric car is a real technical interest ... but with such a tax problem, it will remain the long forgotten yet

If you dread the taxation of electricity vehicle, hurry to buy one before the implementation of tax measures, as I have already suggested.

blah ... when you see the state able to make a retroactive increase in the price of gas ... I do not make me illusion that buying an electric vehicle today is the assurance of not being accused

the electric car is worth! if the state wants to advance the thing he must know clearly and to deserve the confidence of Customer Review ... if he lets run of bad information that does not advance

if the state wanted to govern it should disseminate the right information to show what to do ... alas I feel that he is unable to govern so untrustworthy

So it only remains to tinker each in his corner without any profit to the country
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by I Citro » 06/01/13, 23:47

chatelot16 wrote:be owner of its battery is to take a risk with the chemistry and physics ... but it does not scare me! chemistry does not change overnight and never betrayed me.
Sorry, but even if I'm proud of my batteries 106 12 who have years of age, they begin to acknowledge the weight of years and probably inappropriate use, I replaced 2 blocks this fall and the rest should not to be improving. For now, the use of lithium returns are quite disappointing and trust is far from certain ...
chatelot16 wrote:the electric car is worth! if the state wants to advance the thing he must know clearly and to deserve the confidence of Customer Review ... if he lets run of bad information that does not advance

if the state wanted to govern it should disseminate the right information to show what to do ... alas I feel that he is unable to govern so untrustworthy
So it only remains to tinker each in his corner without any profit to the country
The state is trying to do his best as the recent increase in 7.000 € bonus for buying an EV ...
The rest flows to consistently source. In the days of horse-drawn car, you had to pay to cross any bridge, entering a city ... Mind you, it will come back with the help of new technologies.
The world is changing, the state itself can not know what direction ...
I have my opinion about his ability to govern, but we digress ...
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