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by Remundo » 04/09/08, 14:38

Hello everyone,

Still in surunity and free energy? The magnets that come out of tens of kilowatt hours all by themselves like grown-ups?

Come on, I'm going to tease you ... you all have a superunit machine at home ... your fridge. If in addition you heat yourself with a heat pump, you have 2 superunit machines.

And the most beautiful superunitary machine is the human brain ... give it an idea, it makes you ten more, but not always good : Cheesy:

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by Christophe » 04/09/08, 14:57

Another super unitary thing: bank credit!

The banker will lend you € 100 but must give him back 120! You have therefore created from scratch € 20 "thanks" to your credit!


If it is not surunitaire ca ... what is it then? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 04/09/08, 14:59

Capt_Maloche wrote:but for "magnetic" motors it would be good to open the debate on the real feasibility, figures supporting such a system


Here I open the debate:

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In other words: there is nothing to say ... since NONE has never given figures ... so I do not bury the idea that one day we can draw energy from the vacuum (by exploiting maybe l 'casimir comode effect you must know)

But I think that currently: it's all blank ... especially those that we see on the net ...
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by Lietseu » 04/09/08, 15:02

Christophe wrote:
Capt_Maloche wrote:but for "magnetic" motors it would be good to open the debate on the real feasibility, figures supporting such a system


Here I open the debate:

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In other words: there is nothing to say ... since NONE has never given figures ...


This has the merit of being very clear, thank you!

:P :P Best regards from Lietseu :P :P
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by Remundo » 04/09/08, 15:08

Christophe wrote:Another super unitary thing: bank credit!

The banker will lend you € 100 but must give him back 120! You have therefore created from scratch € 20 "thanks" to your credit!


If it is not surunitaire ca ... what is it then? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

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by comode » 04/09/08, 15:56

Christophe wrote:
Capt_Maloche wrote:but for "magnetic" motors it would be good to open the debate on the real feasibility, figures supporting such a system


Here I open the debate:

...


In other words: there is nothing to say ... since NONE has never given figures ... so I do not bury the idea that one day we can draw energy from the vacuum (by exploiting maybe l 'casimir comode effect you must know)

But I think that currently: it's all blank ... especially those that we see on the net ...


Here is an excellent synthesis of what I wanted to say ... No source, no figures, no valid experimental procedures, results that we interpret as it suits us and in everything and for everything as element going in this direction : youtube videos and forums full of wind ...

For the energy of the vacuum, the only published work that I found with reading committee to support it reports something like 1x10e-30 g / cm-3.

it is an order of magnitude, unfortunately I have no source to cite because it comes from a paper article, and I am not so used to doing a biblio every time I read a review .. If I fall back on it, I would come to edit the source to see correct the figures. These are the results of experimental work.
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by comode » 05/09/08, 04:45

I had not seen this one lol

Lietseu wrote:I wonder what it means, I quote you: "a return of 1"?

Can you explain that to me STP? I have (alas) not done a higher education, and this kind of statement has no meaning for me.
I reflect with the unconstrained, of my unformatted brain and I know that if we add a set of force, we obtain a greater force! ect ... etc ...


Efficiency of 1: ratio of the energy leaving the system to the energy at strictly equal entry, without any energy exchange with the outside of the system considered ... No more, no less.

Perpetual movement: system where kinetic energy is perfectly conserved without energy exchange with the outside

Perpetual machine: system with the capacity to self-maintain according to the exact definition of performance.

For the rest, your examples of pyramids or I don't know what, I don't know where you're coming from but it obviously seems completely off the mark ... I'm not going to speculate on how it was done , but I don't see the connection with the performance problems ...

PS: you know, it's useful to know the constraints ... there's no pride in having to hide them! If you think that the gravity constraint is a view of the mind, nothing prevents you from experiencing it by jumping from the 3rd floor ...
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by Bibiphoque » 05/09/08, 09:46

Hello,

Here is the starting point for all these attempts to build a unitary machine, the scientific bases are described in detail with their sources:
http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/sukdynam.html
http://amasci.com/tesla/dipole1.html
http://amasci.com/tesla/dipole1.html

And a practical application, which works perfectly:
http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html

Voili voilou.

I have long been interested in these theories, but I do not have the capacity to make prototypes (nor the means)

For me, the only possible way is the asymmetry of the systems.

Another disturbing "trick" in physics, put aside by magnetism and gravity, is what is called precession, better known as the gyroscopic effect, under certain conditions it seems possible to cancel the gravity.

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by Lietseu » 05/09/08, 16:51

comode wrote:I had not seen this one lol

Lietseu wrote:I wonder what it means, I quote you: "a return of 1"?

Can you explain that to me STP? I have (alas) not done a higher education, and this kind of statement has no meaning for me.
I reflect with the unconstrained, of my unformatted brain and I know that if we add a set of force, we obtain a greater force! ect ... etc ...


PS: you know, it's useful to know the constraints ... there's no pride in having to hide them! If you think that the gravity constraint is a view of the mind, nothing prevents you from experiencing it by jumping from the 3rd floor ...


Thank you for this information which is perfectly clear!

I will have great pleasure to read your next post :D

Greetings from Lietseu :P
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