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by Projéthée » 28/01/12, 19:50

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still not clear how are the coils, how connected to each other, biting on what.
The magnet is how with its poles where, because there are plenty of varied possibilities still.
The magnet is made of electrically conductive or insulating steel.

Finally the magnet moves how quickly at what speed, with what force, because it is an assembly of alternator with poorly fixed magnet that can turn if I understand ???
The magnet is hanged at the end of a wire like a pendulum.
If the magnet is stationary at first, nothing will happen.
The coils with the induced current in are equivalent to a magnet which by its field acts on the exciter magnet, opposing the movement of the magnet; so especially in translation.

Given the cylindrical symmetry of the field of this magnet, if I understood its structure, (in principle so perfect cylindrical symmetry of the field, which is not certain in reality), this field does not change by rotation, so the energy does not change and so it should not turn.

Every detail is important, however.
The spatial structure of the magnet field is crucial and not always known!
Example earth, is a dipole magnet, plus quadrupoles and hexapoles, weaker.


Ok.
So the magnet is the same type that can be found in a speaker. It is rotatably mounted on an arm which moves along a line consisting of coils and at a constant short distance thereof, at a constant speed too. The coils can each be connected to a diode bridge and, say, to a battery charging system. Yes, roughly, comparable to an alternator assembly whose magnet is poorly fixed.
What I would like to know is if I can consider this magnet as an assembly of an infinity of micro magnets arranged in a ring. In this case, it would be likely that it behaves like a kind of magnetic gear with respect to the line of coils that would play, it, the role of a rack. I agree that a field does not change by rotation but here we simulate a translation and at the same time this movement is likely to generate a rotation. Hence my question.
If the fact that the magnet with its one-piece constitution behaves in another way, I should adapt.
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by Ahmed » 28/01/12, 20:12

That Force CGAINST Electro Mecstatic be with you!Image
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by Obamot » 28/01/12, 21:04

[Joke mode "ON"] Since you speak of "respect" Projetheus, be careful, because you could give the feeling to some who have studied these questions in depth, that you are using them to "do your classes"... : Cheesy: [OFF]

More seriously, and since you do not want to "beat around the bush", if I had any advice to give you to save time (without interrupting your research ...) it is precisely to go to college. to study physics! Because there you would certainly converge your interrogations and those emanating from the matter taught in the courses ... And you would see if your hypotheses were validated (or not) And there you would win maybe twenty years of your life ...

It must be remembered that you do not need to have a tray for that, you just need a "listener's card" and normally you can attend any class at uni ... ( it works in my corner ... to see which uni gives this possibility)
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by Projéthée » 28/01/12, 23:59

I didn't want to offend anyone, much less "exploit" anyone. I have said it and said it again, there is no question for me to post x questions and move forward according to the answers. The machine on which I want to "use" the FCEM can be conceived in two designs. The answer to my question will allow me to decide and save time by asking it precisely "to people who have studied these questions in depth". In my mind it was like asking a mechanic what type of oil he uses for a particular engine. Simple advice, nothing more.
This is not so bad. Let's stay there on this subject.

Ahmed, thanks for the encouragement.
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by Obamot » 29/01/12, 10:27

How you cracked! It's humor .... Foresight ...

For the rest, I am not able to answer. DSLE.

And still good luck, development, research and studies!
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by dedeleco » 29/01/12, 14:21

the magnet is the same type that can be found in a speaker

think, because it is not just a magnet, but a magnet steel set, such that almost nothing of the induction goes out, except only induction in the narrow gap (1 to 2 mm) or passes the thin and light coil of the speaker.

So this false magnet will give next to nothing.

Read well-established knowledge about speaker, magnet, etc ...
Otherwise wasted time !!
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by Obamot » 29/01/12, 16:19

... pffff, actually, : Shock: I had zapped that : Cheesy: Huge! : Mrgreen:
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by Projéthée » 29/01/12, 16:24

Thank you! : Evil: I walked well. No, I ran.

But not bad, :P
This has led me to decide and continue down the path of the "magnetic gear" which is more like what I know.
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by Obamot » 29/01/12, 16:29

As Antoinet111 would say it feels the troll attitude a max, these times:

Projetheus wrote:I still preserve secret the acronym BR-JR, as this one can prove itself revealing on ma technology

: Mrgreen: :D : Cheesy:
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by antoinet111 » 29/01/12, 18:44

it's clear that it's brewing some air ...

and go so far as to seek the advice of forumon a magnet thing more without giving the keys of understanding necessary is a bit of fucking mouth.
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