Bedini system, free energy and zero point

[oli 80]

hello, I know this image of a storm bird, it is taken from the stargate atlantis series the three crystals are "E2PZ" extractors of the zero point potential, I do not know this science too much, but on the other hand the series I have followed enough regularly

well let's be serious here is something else found on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDS9qk-N ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy9nIg6k ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67QJOn39 ... re=related

there are others by the same author

[kistinie]

No, the 10 dim does not refer to multiverses, which is only a theoretical attempt to explain quantum mechanics. To tell the truth it seems to me wobbly.

Really?
I am like Dedelco, I like multiverses.

The 10 dimentions refer to string theory, which also seems very flawed to me. For their calculation to hold, they simply need to say that there are 10 dimensions so that the strings can vibrate and account for all the particles and interactions (it's the same thing) that we know. They believe that they are not manifested on observable scales.

A great metaphor for string theory is Alliance's TV commercial. Each feeling is a cord, and Charlotte the reason, proposes a solution, reasoned by taking into account all the strings, therefore all the opinions.
http://jessfarrugia.blog.sudouestjob.co ... nt-allianz


For your memory my little dry cookie:
The word philosophy (from the ancient Greek φιλοσοφία, composed of φιλεῖν, "to love" and σοφία, "wisdom, knowledge", that is to say literally: "the love of wisdom") designates an activity and a discipline existing since Antiquity and presenting itself as a questioning, an interpretation and a reflection on the world and human existence, or even as a systematic knowledge
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophie

This resonance may seem strange, but Einstein did it to assimilate time to the fourth dimension (thought experiment: the surveyor ant)

Albert, with us!
Albert!

Thank you dedelco for saying that there was an error in this lying article. Being zero in electronics and magnetism I found myself quite incapable of invalidating kristina's thesis.

In order to avoid you a great future disappointment ... To see your dreams breaking apart ;-) ...
I want to warn you, it seems to me, that you still are ;-)

As for a conversion of gravity into electrical energy, I really believe that it dreams of the poor.

So explain all of this to Jean Louis, Tonton Louis de B., Max P., BB ..
And hop the proof in pictures!
http://lifters.online.fr/lifters/index.htm

And by calculation!
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effet_Biefeld-Brown
Enjoy!

The only example I know of is a hydro dam ...

Be patient little beetle, the light too, you will find!
In any case, I wish you and I am willing to help you, but it will be necessary to pay more attention to others my cookie.

Little read

If you didn't exist, you would have to invent yourself!
I find you very funny and representative of our time.
You understand nothing.
You refuse to see the facts.
You base yourself on flawed theories, which you doubt yourself and, tail ...
You want to impose yourself, everything is related to others, is an unavoidable universal divine truth.

You have the pure spirit "Hey Con No Logic!"
Remarkable!

Fortunately, you are a minority.
Donc ...
Be careful, you are in the wrong place.

Here, the site is "Econology"
Here, we seek together, logical, reasoned solutions.
That said, you are not far from the account.
Just a little adjustment, a little N to delete and voila ...

To remove the N, there is an unstoppable trick.
The bath.

Like soaking your cookie in a little coffee to wake up and soften the strand.

..... You seem stiff to me.

hello, I know this image of a storm bird, it is taken from the stargate atlantis series the three crystals are "E2PZ" extractors of the zero point potential, I do not know this science too much, but on the other hand the series I have followed enough regularly

well let's be serious here is something else found on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDS9qk-N ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy9nIg6k ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67QJOn39 ... re=related

there are others by the same author

Because, while you ramble, like a disc scratched by, impossible ... And as this beautiful bird says very well ...

With your stories of heat pump and on-unit movement
So get to work!

We work

We are making !
We realize !
And in addition, we have a good time with friends!

In this regard, the WINGOVER project is open to all goodwill ....
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref ... 0192062780


If you want to participate or help ... Party ;-) ... get to know you!

Cheers

PS:
P'tilu and other biscuits, I have nothing against you, and besides, you are also welcome on board, as long as you respect the common rules of life.
These simple rules, from the nostril to sailing and steaming, are followed by all other sailors.

Respecting scientific facts is one of the rules of the nostril.

[dedeleco]

A hydro dam makes it possible to understand electronics:
a loaded capacity is a dam with behind the accumulated water very quiet with a big potential energy waiting !!
When we connect a capacitor on a coil or inductor we act as if we were emptying the dam into a river which limits the emptying speed. The electric current is the same with the flow of water flowing. The self or induction which opposes the change of the current is the capacity of the river to keep the flow of the water already engaged in it after leaving the dam.
The energy of the choke is the kinetic energy of the water which flows in the river and which makes a violent shock if one tries to stop it suddenly (overvoltage of the coil by cutting the current)
Thus the choke prevents the current from changing too quickly as the river retains its flow and its kinetic energy during the flow time.
Thus the assembly:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/teptheo/teptheo.htm
is equivalent to a dam where the level is kept constant with a large reserve (the battery with its reserve of lead chemical energy), which pours out on a resistance (a long river followed by a high speed turbine with kinetic energy corresponding to the energy stored in the self). The transistor corresponds to a very large river which suddenly short-circuits the turbine (or self) at the bottom of the river. The water turbine is found dried up but the water already engaged therefore continues which corresponds to the overvoltage by closing the transistor switch. This turbine will empty in the river and a little also at the bottom of the dam which pumps its water (battery which pumps water with its current).
The teptheo demonstration forgets that the total current of the turbine (or of the choke) kept at the start on its momentum is split in two and that the current in the river R is reduced by the same amount during the relaxation time of the choke (or of the turbine) and therefore the energy dissipated in the resistance is lower than that supplied by the battery.
We must take into account exactly the complex properties of the transistor, with its resistances of 1Kohms which decreases the current in R8 overestimated by teptheo and therefore there is no OverUnity.
We can replace the transistor with an ideal switch (made in teptheo formulas) but we must not forget the internal resistance of the non-zero switch with the transistor, because otherwise there must not be an overvoltage on the closing of the contact unlike the image of the oscilloscope. All current flows through the zero resistance contact at the start without voltage on it, so that the current in R8 is zero.
So this simple argument of OU is with a big basic error, for lack of rigor.
Finally the energy conservation assessments are very difficult and require very great rigor, otherwise everything is wrong.

[sen-no-sen]

Interesting this energy of the vacuum, but frankly do you think that such an energy would be controllable (so much so that it is it!) ... technically and especially morally?
Because if such energy was within our reach (fortunately not!), I think the Pentagon would be very interested!

[kistinie]

Interesting this energy of the vacuum, but frankly do you think that such an energy would be controllable (so much so that it is it!) ... technically and especially morally?

Sen!
Nonsense!

So as your name says it so well ....
Be careful, biscuit syndrome.
You're going to go overboard!
Fortunately, on board we have a moral of steel and a heart of gold.
So let's pay attention to you, now

Because if such energy was within our reach (fortunately not!)

No !
You get off the boat and you will join P'tilu.
You will ask to come back when you accept the scientific reality present there before your eyes.

I think the Pentagon would be very interested!

Let the Pentagon deal with its Geometry problems.
Take care of yours.
Don't mix it all up!
And rather do your job by the sweat of your entropy.

Thank you!

[sen-no-sen]

You have an easy word game ...
But it is very easy to speak and much more to demonstrate.
Can you demonstrate that this energy is recoverable, now not in a millennium?
Because the energy challenges are for now and it will be played over the next 30 years!
Already that it is very difficult to impose 100% controlled technology, I remain very skeptical about this concept.

[kistinie]

You have an easy word game ...

Faced with absurdity, it is the most human response that the human soul can give.

But it is very easy to speak and much more to demonstrate.

Besides, you use and abuse it, and abuse us, by wanting to take us for buzzards.

Can you demonstrate that this energy is recoverable, now not in a millennium?

Besides, you use and abuse it, and abuse us, by wanting to take us for buzzards.
(Scratched disc mode)

Because the energy challenges are for now and it will be played over the next 30 years!

So I suggest you support the two proposals that exist, that of Remundo, Holwman, and myself, whose proposals are here and now.

The Ray-world:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post158653.html#158653

And the visible one:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post158636.html#158636

Kiss tiny:
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/props/ ... post332890

Already it is very difficult to impose 100% mastered technology,

So as much to abdicate definitively ...

This is the reasoning of brelles! MOB
Who will fall overboard.
You will become an MOB

MOB = Man OverBoard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_overboard

And I don't want to lose you, you probably have lots of qualities to offer us and as much good will.

I will therefore ask you to put on a lifejacket harness immediately, and to keep your safety lanyard securely fastened on the lifeline, to have the right to remain on board.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_f ... wable_PFDs

If this is uncomfortable for you, I understand it but I couldn't keep you on board.
The harsh law of the nostril.
The captain, the skipper, is the master on board.

I remain very skeptical about this concept.

Your view is therefore false.
Or pit?
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/BiogasChinafr.php

Derision mode on
Your skepticism on the ZPE, the energy of the vacuum .... To understand what we think ... it's ... how to tell you without hurting yourself ...
It's shit.

Think hard about the false ideas that you propagate and from which you refuse to draw energy from the processes that exist before you!

Think of the help that you do not bring to all those who work to achieve what you wish for ...
.... but which you relentlessly forbid ...

Think it's been going on for 100 years "L'Eh Con No Logique"

Think of the date of the first major national biogas plan ... 1935!
It's a false old pit!

FALSE
PIT
FALSE
You're in it ;-)

Derision mode off
If you want to get out of it, just ask us, we are at your service my beautiful or my beautiful.
But don't count on us to go down with you in shit, just to swim with you in it.

Personally, I want to go there, in the false, but for emptying, and help you get out of it.


When you are a girl, you always remain a little girl, so you are always beautiful.


Tiny
Kiss

[sen-no-sen]

Where is the relationship between biogas and vacuum energy?
You wouldn't drown the fish, would you?

[Ptilu]

Thank you dedelco for the hydraulic analogy. It's the only way for me to understand an electrical diagram. I have good knowledge in physics, but I admit that electromagnetism is above my strength .

As you said, losses are always fatal, in electronics, hydraulics or mechanics. This makes it impossible to make it perpetual movement unless we question the conservation of energy. No experience has ever challenged this principle, not even the discovery of vacuum energy! So, as I believe I see ...

The energy of the vacuum is in the current state irrecoverable, because if we know that it exists, we have never been able to make it manifest or transform it on the marcoscopic scale, for lack of scientific track to explain this phenomenon. In 10 years we may have the bases of a scientific theory including it, but here again nothing tells us that it is really what it seems to us to be (ie energy)

[dedeleco]

In quantum mechanics the more you immobilize a particle in a small space, the more energy you have to spend to locate it.
The energy of the vacuum corresponds to this fact that a motionless particle in a precise place has an energy all the higher as it is located quantum in a narrow place.
For photons their energy increases with their frequency (Plank's law in 1900) and therefore the energy of the photons at rest in their ground state located in a box increases with the frequency of the photons up to infinity. The basic calculation therefore gives an infinity for the energy of the zero point motion vacuum !!
It is renormalizable because we can measure its variations when we move a wall of the box; this variation corresponds to the Casimir effect or to the Van der Waals attraction between molecules at a short distance. So we can measure its very real variations in agreement with the theory better than the%!
The same quantum agitation at rest at absolute zero temperature -273 ° with zero point energy persists in bodies at zero temperature, it prevents helium 4 and 3 from becoming solid by remaining superfluid liquids at absolute zero temperature.
So this is well understood, controllable but we recover weak forces and effects except at very short distance.
The Casimir effect is annoying for nanomotors with its attraction which sticks the elements together.
The fact that for vacuum and very short wavelength photons of great energy (X-rays and Beta) this energy of the vacuum is very large and therefore infinite has disturbed the minds but since the 1950s, physicists accommodate renormalization and manage to eliminate these infinities for everything that is measurable in practice, moreover with very high precision !!
A theory where one does not succeed in eliminating the infinities (or rather to calculate with) is not renormalizable like gravitation in quantum mechanics (except with the strings with many dimensions like 10 instead of 3, which explains the interest for these models)
To recover this energy, one must be consistent with what is already proven to be correct according to experience.
Otherwise they are incoherent rantings without validity.