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by gegyx » 10/04/06, 01:14

Econology wrote:The question is: who saw it? In my opinion not a lot of people ... If maybe the "UFO hunters" hihihihihi : Mrgreen:

There is one on tone Forum... Should be continued! : Cry:

ask to North.
Because what it seems over-unity ... a motorcycle battery, a motor, a generator.

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by lordm » 10/04/06, 10:47

Hello !

For me, it most resembles is the perpetual motion clock James Cox (1760) which operates through a column of mercury. This mercury column (or ball in a more modern version) is responsive to changes in pressure or ambient temperature, causing a change of volume of mercury which can be recovered as mechanical energy.

But again, energy is drawn from outside the system.
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by gegyx » 10/04/06, 11:34

I think it is correct to think that the on-unit, does not exist.
What is called on-unit, currently, is a ratio energy, input / output, greater than one; but according to the scientific knowledge of the moment ...
It is legitimate to think that an unknown external energy is invited into the "extraordinary machines" to benefit the report.
"Vacuum energy", Ether, Orgone, radio, psychic waves, magnetism ...
All these energies come from elsewhere, and are not yet listed, nor elucidated by official science. Do not doubt that it happens one day, and then it will be "normal" phenomena.
To use the potential energy of a mineral is not over-unity, but restitution.
Build a machine that captures an unknown energy Z, X or N ... not making the on-unit, is to take a potential energy, latent located elsewhere; and why not in a parallel world and another dimension.
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As against the machine MikhaelSeems interesting because it uses only two known natural forces antagonistic gravity and buoyancy forces.
That's why I think it is balanced, but it will never be over-unity.
The designer, to the prototype, and show the world that runs forever.
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by Cuicui » 10/04/06, 14:50

lordm wrote:Hello !

For me, it most resembles is the perpetual motion clock James Cox (1760) which operates through a column of mercury. This mercury column (or ball in a more modern version) is responsive to changes in pressure or ambient temperature, causing a change of volume of mercury which can be recovered as mechanical energy.

But again, energy is drawn from outside the system.


An atmospheric pressure engine! Not bad. Too bad the pressure changes are not very fast.
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by vincent27 » 10/04/06, 14:52

Hi everybody,

Just a small precision, energy is defined by a work in a time window.

Work is defined by the action of a force along a displacement.
For example: the potential energy is the work of gravity on a moving object,
Heat is defined by the vibration (movement) of molecules in a body.

I think all we can do on earth is to transform energy in machines to get the desired energy:
of heat into motion,
A move another motion, ...
Motion into electricity
Fusion energy or nuclear fission in heat then electricity.
Electric energy (movement of electrons) in ...

On the unit is therefore no and I believe that force is not an energy (for stories of gravity or thrust Archimedes).
Nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything transforms.

The goal is to use "renewable" energy, ie whose usage time is the time of transformation by nature.
The problem of oil is that it is transformed in a few minutes while nature has taken thousands of years to make the first transformation. The same is true for nuclear power.

They must therefore be used either "raw" (solar, wind), or convertible into human time (biomass, bacteria ...).
Solar (wind power from the same source that matter) is THE source of energy the earth has. Our land is watered sun that we want it or not, and is used or not, it is given by the sun.

That's my opinion that is only my opinion, more
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by Christophe » 10/04/06, 15:09

gegyx wrote:There is one on tone Forum... Should be continued! : Cry:

ask to North.
Because what it seems over-unity ... a motorcycle battery, a motor, a generator.

https://www.econologie.com/forums/energie-el ... 65-10.html


Mwarf ... I missed this discussion ... will make up for it ... but I already have a certain appriori since this Teremetz has already contacted me several times so that I "advert" for his really relevant sites. ..

ps: I handed northward in his place https://www.econologie.com/forums/energie-el ... 65-20.html
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by Christophe » 10/04/06, 15:11

gegyx wrote:What is called on-unit, currently, is a ratio energy, input / output, greater than one; but according to the scientific knowledge of the moment ...


Right ... eg a nuclear reaction would have been considered surunitaire there is less of 200 years ...
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by Christophe » 10/04/06, 15:12

gegyx wrote:As against the machine MikhaelSeems interesting because it uses only two known natural forces antagonistic gravity and buoyancy forces.
That's why I think it is balanced, but it will never be over-unity.
The designer, to the prototype, and show the world that runs forever.


Uh how can you find interesting an invention that will never work? : Shock:
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by Christophe » 10/04/06, 15:17

vincent27 wrote:The problem of oil is that it is transformed in a few minutes while nature has taken thousands of years to make the first transformation. The same is true for nuclear power.


1) It has been estimated that it took 420 millions of years to produce the reserves of petroleum that will burn in less than 3 centuries ...

2) This is only part of the problem ... (the ecological part) I think there is a problem just as serious: the economic side. Indeed; All modern economies are based on the "monetization" of oil. In this sense, I think without bcp wrong, that the end of oil signifira the end of "extreme capitalism" we have now ... More the end will be more brutal economic catastrophe will be great ...

vincent27 wrote:Solar (wind power from the same source that matter) is THE source of energy the earth has. Our land is watered sun that we want it or not, and is used or not, it is given by the sun.


Oil is nothing more than the sun ... "concentrate" ...
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by vincent27 » 10/04/06, 17:02

Absolutely, it is a renewable energy if we put 420 million years to consume ...
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