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by the middle » 08/05/10, 00:08

Strange the similarity with the other video that I sent not long ago, in Turkey?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_PW1WD- ... re=related
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by the middle » 31/05/10, 13:26

Another beautiful dream ...
Well yes, magnets wear out on magnetic motors ...
But not so much on electro-magnetic motors.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd0hk3 ... r-min_news

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by dedeleco » 31/05/10, 23:14

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd0hk3 ... r-min_news
This video with a very low loss ball bearing and spindle rotor is misleading because it does not let turn for a long time (minutes!) until the rotation stops by the slight friction of the rotor at high inertia.
I make the same scam video with a heavy spinning top (or gyroscope) without magnet launched and which spins much longer than the video !!
Moreover when it moves away the fixed magnets the launched rotor stops with difficulty even with the fingers !!!
So no free energy in this scientifically proven video !!

With such low losses, by slight vibrations of the fixed magnets, the rotation can be maintained by parametric amplification !!
We can with the same deceptive method say that the moon revolves around the earth by free energy !! (or the earth around the sun).
While the huge moon's inertia maintains its rotation despite tidal losses on earth for 4 billion years !!
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by coucou789456 » 01/06/10, 05:37

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it's obvious, no proof, whether scientific or otherwise, but unless he changes the frequency of the camera, I see that the speed is constantly increasing during the test, and that it starts then that everything is at a standstill.

moreover, the rotating element having a certain mass, the inertia is sufficient to present a good resistance to the friction of the fingers to stop it. Personally, I won't have to use any other method to stop it, unless I grab the part by the sides, but the presence of magnets gives rise to roughness that would have a harmful effect on the skin of the fingers!

there are plenty of videos on youtube where the magnets are clearly moved to cause the rotation and its maintenance. here I am not sure which method he could have used, because if there is vibration, it should be synchronized with the rotating element

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by the middle » 01/06/10, 12:29

dedeleco wrote:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd0hk3_moteur-energie-libre-6000-tr-min_news
This video with a very low loss ball bearing and spindle rotor is misleading because it does not let turn for a long time (minutes!) until the rotation stops by the slight friction of the rotor at high inertia.
I make the same scam video with a heavy spinning top (or gyroscope) without magnet launched and which spins much longer than the video !!
Moreover when it moves away the fixed magnets the launched rotor stops with difficulty even with the fingers !!!
So no free energy in this scientifically proven video !!

With such low losses, by slight vibrations of the fixed magnets, the rotation can be maintained by parametric amplification !!
We can with the same deceptive method say that the moon revolves around the earth by free energy !! (or the earth around the sun).
While the huge moon's inertia maintains its rotation despite tidal losses on earth for 4 billion years !!

Dedeleko, I think we have to work differently.
Do you know the history of the ball burner?
For many years a certain André, he worked on this waste oil burner, then he gave the results of his work.
It was good, but not enough; it took the work of many people to develop the process, which is ultimately good, if you have the right equipment, and the right knowledge (to work in automatic mode)
Between the time André worked on his project and the automation, roughly 30 years have passed!
For this magnetic "motor", this is the beginning.
I am not saying that this technology will be successful, I am saying that soon, given the number of videos, the number of enthusiasts, a balance sheet will arrive.
Balance sheet? Yes it's important;
I explain:
Another example of the ball burner:
Now, we know that it is viable, but from there to building such a burner that works in a simple and safe way, there is a world; this world is called industrial design ... and there, the big bosses said no! they removed a good ball burner from the sale ....
Myself, I explained the risks of building such a burner, if you do not have sufficient knowledge, and sufficient equipment ... here is a balance sheet, knowing how to recognize the truth.
For the magnetic motor, I only know one person (French-speaking) who has experimented, and admitted his failures ... (it's Quartz, if my memory serves me correctly)
This is little!
Sometimes you have to work with a logic of trust rather than a technical logic. Seeing work without logic!
You have to ask yourself other questions like: why are so many people showing positive results? to do what? (it's full of videos on the net ...
I am waiting for the moment when a person will demonstrate that this system is technically impossible, see under unitary.
I'm waiting for this man.
But there's no point in getting angry

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What do most people ask for? a little electricity to run his fridge, his TV, his heating ?, his car ?, his pc, it's true, there is no end : Cheesy: (subject of another post)
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by coucou789456 » 01/06/10, 13:06

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lejustemilieu wrote:.... there is a world; this world is called industrial design ... and there, the big bosses said no! they removed a good ball burner from the sale ....
what you say is partly true on the refusal of the big bosses, because unfortunately they are not the only ones to refuse this technical progress, if we questioned the users on this system by explaining all the advantages to them, not on that 100% d 'between them would agree to mount it on their boiler.

you give the example of the ball but you could have replaced that with something else entirely, pantone for example, identical result. and we only talk about what we know well ... I can already see the difficulty I have in convincing the "fuel oil" to add a little SP95, however there is not even a modification to make, just the filling at the pump which is done in 2 stages.

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ps: the list of all these innovations which take an inordinate amount of time to manage to be installed in series will be too long, especially irrelevant
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by quartz » 01/06/10, 13:18

Hello everybody :D

No I'm not the only one doing models and experiments,
not everyone publishes, but there is a fairly active community in France.

Regarding the reference video, the rotor can work in various ways,
The first that comes to mind is a judiciously positioned jet of air that produces the rotation.
Second hypothesis, an identical rotor mounted on a motor but out of camera view.
The master rotor drives by proximity the slave rotor which is in the field.
Last hypothesis is really going.
But quite frankly I don't believe in it very much, but let's not be obtuse.

When to one day discover a functional magnet system, if we do not try we will not know.
There are anvils of my kind sticking to it, so don't do it.
We don't ask anyone for money, plus it distracts the kids watching the videos
it's better than violence or porn.

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by dedeleco » 01/06/10, 13:43

For cuckoo789456, the camera which filmed gives a stroboscopic effect which makes it impossible to know if the speed increases or decreases!
It is clear that the rotor has a very low loss and the video is too short to believe it: no credible scientific evidence with analysis and proof that there is no rigging, with a long duration of rotation by inertia.
Simply approaching a magnet across, is enough to start the rotation of a rotor at very low loss, without drafts, given the great forces of the magnets, like throwing a top, with the demonstrator who believes in it and does not not perform a credible scientific analysis !!
Considering the armada of madmen, relentless and believers, who present such videos or statements, it is impossible to believe them without objective analysis!
The other discoveries, ball burner, etc ..., much less surprising, are completely different and industrial development is very difficult, even for very simple, even trivial !!

I, too, will be happy to heat my house with 29W instead of 20KW !!!
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post169299.html#169299

When to embark on the reproduction of such experiences as one more relentless, to see once again a failure, I scientifically see if it is credible!

There are 350 years of perpetual motion patents, following the evolution of technologies, ropes, weights and pulleys, springs, magnets, electrolysis, turbines, vacuum energy, neutrinos, etc ...? and this number does not allow us to hope for more, an upcoming success !!

A concrete example of pigeons having left beautiful feathers and unhappy, who sent the crook to prison:
http://energythic.com/view.php?node=53

26 / 04 / 2010: Comments from the Director of the Portal

Several German newspapers, as well as the PESWiki website, report that Mike BRADY, on 29 March 2010, has been arrested by the Swiss authorities and extradited to Germany following a request by the Munich Attorney General . While awaiting his judgment, Mike BRADY was incarcerated in the prison of Stadelheim.

Following the bankruptcy of his company in Germany, Mike BRADY had rented a residence on Lake Zurich in Switzerland and signed leases for a fleet of Maserati and several Range Rovers. He was therefore running a great deal while 61 German clients had initiated legal proceedings to recover the funds they had granted in advance (more than one million euros) for the acquisition of 100 electromagnetic motors. and 300 kW.

The commitments made by Mike BRADY had never been honored. According to rumors that begin to circulate, the PERENDEV engine would be moreover a simple copy of a permanent magnet motor, whose patent filed by an American in the 90 years would have fallen into the public domain.

The main website has been closed, only the German site and the Russian site are still accessible.

Many inventors today doubt the reality of the allegations of the company PERENDEV. Mike BRADY was not able over a period of more than 4 years to deliver the engines for which he had cashed partial payments and therefore had a contractual legal obligation.

This manifest fraud undermines the credibility of all the surunitaire engine projects.
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by coucou789456 » 01/06/10, 14:23

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the camera which filmed gives a strobe effect which makes it impossible to know if the speed increases or decreases!
certainly, I agree, at least if the film was edited upside down, that is to say starting from a rotating system and stopping gradually ... but that no longer fits with the stop with the fingers ... in short, too many parameters ignored and not shown clearly to make it totally credible.

Considering the armada of madmen, relentless and believers, who present such videos or statements, it is impossible to believe them without objective analysis!
It's certain. let's say that I classify people in 2 categories, rather 3!
the first, the armada of madmen, relentless and believers
the latter, scientists of all kinds who categorically deny reality or any demonstration, even made in front of their eyes (if there is of course)
the last, ready to believe, and do nothing but see and observe while waiting for an event, without participating, to see what will happen in short, like those who slow down when they pass in front of a damaged car, hoping to see the victims bathing in their blood!

If I remember correctly, it seems to me that the "Pont Neuf" in Paris has already been sold several times, to rich people who have been swindled of course.

Quartz made a very critical observation about the event, and leaves room for doubt despite everything.

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