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by Remundo » 17/05/09, 20:23

In any case, the power collected seems very low ...

Tonight I'm doing a bit of science fiction ...

One could imagine magnets at room temperature ... which set in motion would be able to release magnetic energy, which would be converted into mechanics by dipolar interaction.

By doing so, the magnets would cool ... But the maintenance of the system would be ensured by the heat of the room ...

Is that your reasoning Jam?

The problem is that it is a thermodynamically impossible monothermal motor.

I think more simply that a large part of the magnetic energy of interaction between the magnets manages to be released in its system by demagnetization.

Imagine the thing like mechanical springs that relax, or compressed air pistons. Potential energy becomes kinetic at constant total energy, except for losses (hysteresis, macro / microscopic friction)

But I guess, speculate, guess, imagine ... 8)
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by gegyx » 17/05/09, 21:26

Rhoo! Padawan, you offended him again, and he erased his tutorials, the work of about twenty days. Or rather at night, because the gentleman is a truck driver in Chicago.
Sterling offered him all kinds of things. Even getting paid to experiment rather than trucker. No!
Monsieur is a high-flying artist, he puts glue on the magnet, concentrates and places the magnet on the ideal place of the support, he checks, and starts again block after block. It is live with the spirit of Johnson (legend Shilow).
He would like to market toys. Like artists, he is character.
But he is an artist, in his genre. And geniuses are often recognized after their death.

Padawan, did you already have ferrite and alnico magnets in your pharmacy?
Did you follow all of his videos, and if you understand English well, you must have learned more than I did, about his way of proceeding and his certainties.
But as a scientist by training, you may not have understood them well?

Remundo / Impossible would be Auvergne?
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by jam » 17/05/09, 21:36

You shouldn't belittle Mylow too much. It seems that he is autistic, hence his difficulty in functioning normally. The video with his twin brother was a jewel :P
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by elephant » 17/05/09, 22:00

Remundo wrote (and I thank him, a day without learning is a lost day)

There is talk of thermal cooling effect in particular ... it reminds me of the magnetocaloric effect discovered in 1881 by Warburg


must say that this is not a common and widespread concept. The question is therefore:

is a self-sustaining system that lowers the ambient temperature really self-sustaining: the risk of using it on an industrial scale would lead to a cooling of the planet.
Time will tell .
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by Remundo » 17/05/09, 23:34

In physics, "work" in the sense of energy available in an ordered form requires the existence of 2 sources, one high and the other low, with a "flow of something" between the 2 sources ...

Example 1: waterfall
high basin H / low basin, water flow:
mechanical work = mass flow x gravity x deltaH x time
potential energy in: mass x gravity x H

Example 2: electricity
high potential V (+) / low potential (-), charge flow
electrical work: charge flow x deltaV x time
Potential energy in: load x potential V

Example 3: heat engine
hot source T / cold source: heat flow
mechanical work: thermal flow x deltaT x time
Potential energy in: thermal capacity x T

Example 4: magnetism
consider an imposing magnetic source Bext and a permanent magnet for magnetization M

the demagnetized source would be "the atmosphere": work: flow of M x-deltaB x time

Continuing the analogy:

Bext magnetic source / non-magnetic source
magnetization rate going from the mgt source towards the magnetic source
mechanical work: flow rate of M x deltaB x time
Potential energy in: Magnetization x B

What brings me to this reasoning is the observation of the machine where the magnets periodically pass in front of an "external" fixed magnet

The problem is that the beautiful mechanics stop when the delta between the sources is canceled ...

I think that the magnetic motors presented in good faith undergo a slow demagnetization which give the illusion that they provide energy for free.

It is also possible that the permanent mobile magnets are affected and demagnetize (a little as if in the other examples, the mass or the load decreased during its flow)

Let them run and power a lamp for several days with voltage / amperage measurement ... : Idea:

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by elephant » 18/05/09, 07:59

Remundo said:

Let them run and power a lamp for several days with voltage / amperage measurement.


I do not think it is possible, given the very low powers, but measuring the strength of a magnet should not be very difficult. We could also integrate into the assembly an air choke connected to a high impedance measuring device so as not to slow down the movement.
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by Remundo » 18/05/09, 10:12

Even a small 1W bulb? : Cheesy:
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by chrisleblay » 19/05/09, 12:58

On this video we see the man: mylow.
A look of genius above normal without a doubt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIKbleBN1f0

Remundo thermodynamic reasoning is at the thermal base therefore basically the source of the reasoning does not apply to magnetic force.

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by gegyx » 19/05/09, 13:57

It is good to keep the chain of this link in favorites, because it has quite a few preserved.

Mylow Saga (continuation and end?) :D
Come on, after having gone crazy, erased his videos, returned him for consultation, because he lost 10 kg…
A phenomenon this guy: he found a way to lose weight in the States! He's going to make a fortune.
Or the MIB made him taste polonium…
Between cat leptospirosis and cockatoo psittacosis, he is doomed…
In his last he said he was taking 6 months of vacation.
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The fact remains that after processing images, a video is being shot, with strong suspicion of fraud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw-8YJvicrw
I don't have time to check with the videos already recorded. But the doubt is strong.
It seems that it would be to give wages to the MIB ...
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by Remundo » 19/05/09, 15:04

Hi Gegyx,

And well ... as well Mylow as the other film of "denial" [very well put together] ... there are some who have time to waste :D

Thanks Guys for the show!! 8)
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