Gravitolienne or Hackenberger engine

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by phil53 » 10/06/08, 10:09

Cuicui you drew a water mill wheel in the form of a bucket chain.
Where does the water come from?
What are weights for?

If there is no substantial water source, the usable torque will be ridiculous.
This is often the case with gravitational systems other than dams.
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by Cuicui » 10/06/08, 18:29

phil53 wrote:Where does the water come from? What are weights for?

Hello Phil53
Each element is connected to the opposite element by a flexible hose (not shown in the diagram) which is used to transfer water from the rising element to the descending element (on the flat bottom side). At the start, one element is full and the other is empty. The circuit is sealed, there is no external water supply. When the element rises, the sufficiently heavy piston exerts a pressure which transfers the water towards the descending element whose piston creates a suction, and which becomes heavier as the rising element becomes lighter, which maintains a movement perpetual ... (no need to corner me in the ears that it is impossible, do not want to know).
On the diagram: the water in dark blue, the air in light blue (I was wrong, I corrected).
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by georges100 » 10/06/08, 18:33

for that to work must apply the famous postilat of cucul ... "the perpetual motion exists" :D
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by phil53 » 10/06/08, 19:27

Georges is right, it's perpetual movement.
At best it is the balance if one does not take into account friction.
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by georges100 » 10/06/08, 19:34

by reflecting it is possible .... :D

if we manage to vary the weights enough ...
the weight is linked to the terrestrial attraction ....
so if the upper mass leaves the Earth's attraction while the lower mass approaches the Earth it works !!!!!
so it only retains a small construction problem to solve :D
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by Cuicui » 11/06/08, 10:24

phil53 wrote:At best it's balance

Well no, precisely, the descending elements filled with water are heavier than the ascending elements which are empty. The system is unbalanced, which keeps the movement going.
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by gegyx » 11/06/08, 13:59

Be nice, it's not about gravitolienne.
Did this drawing come from you or was it taken online? Source?
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A pipe connects the flat bottoms of the opposing mobiles, for the transfer of water.
The system is sealed.
On the plug side, are the tops of the opposite mobiles connected to each other by a pipe, for air transfer?
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by Cuicui » 11/06/08, 14:09

gegyx wrote:Be nice, it's not about gravitolienne.
Did this drawing come from you or was it taken online? Source?
A pipe connects the flat bottoms of the opposite mobiles, for the transfer of water. The system is sealed. On the plug side, are the tops of the opposite mobiles connected to each other by a pipe, for air transfer?

Sorry for the gravitolienne, I will not go there again, unless someone asks me questions.
This drawing was put in its time on this forum by Mikhail. Originally, it was intended to operate underwater. We could actually connect the caps for the air transfer, but this is probably not essential since the system works in the open air and the air can enter and exit freely through the neck.
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by phil53 » 11/06/08, 14:13

But what makes the water rise?
It is the mass which will rise as much water as its weight and that of the top will draw at best are weight.
So in fact the masses will only provide the work of their weight in water, ie less friction there is nothing to recover.

If you don't want to admit that build !!!!!!!!
And come and show us the video.
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by Remundo » 11/06/08, 14:30

The perpetual movement exists !! It is initiated those who believe that it exists. QED :P
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