Autonomous generator

[dedeleco]

Some are worse than dedeleco !!!!!

As a gogo we must check on this black box delivering energy, with a calorimeter (with the house thus heated, with losses measured before by heating it with EDF by measuring its famous "water law") for days, weeks and months !!
In addition you must have a Geiger counter, in case they have stuffed a radioactive source or cell in it capable of delivering energy for years !! (unlikely, given the price to NASA)

Otherwise as a scientist a text analysis does not improve confidence given the contradictions:

In fact, there is no excess energy or out of nowhere, the energy is present at the start in the form of 30bar of gas injected and stored then of 20bar for the operation, I repeat that the adiabatic properties of nitrogen, the fact that there is no leakage of the gas therefore 100% tightness plus the fact that all the cylinders and conduits are polymirroir 600 allows this non loss of energy, as well as the sequence of injection by the solenoid valves. It is more a “no loss of energy” than energy from a vacuum or whatever. There's no cold fusion either, nitrogen is gaseous and the rest does not change state. It is used 10bar for starting then the system reaches a cruising speed of 1500t / min.
"no excess energy" but it leaves 9KW or 12KW usable without excess, which constitutes a perfect logical contradiction
For the price 8000 € it is for the 12kw the new must be around 5000 €, I must find this in my notes.
Also no answer why with 9KW outgoing, we can not spend 5% to 10% in usual sealed bearings to have 90% of the energy in a simple French system !!

What are the patent texts, the one indicated on the heater is to sleep upright !!!

you can find out for yourself to investigate

but kistinie "remained hungry", with the impossibility of seeing it functioning and verifying the energy that comes out freely for hours, days, months !!!

15 years ago, I had the opportunity to measure and scientifically verify an affirmation of excess energy; published in a nice article on Sciences et Vie on a shock absorber with strong Russian hysteresis injecting water under pressure into a variety of fine pore zeolites !!!
The serious calorimetry showed to 10% near the absence of notable excess of energy !!!
Below 10% it is an extremely difficult and careful measurement on a complex and cumbersome system.

Also, I am skeptical, I do not want to stay on my hunger in front of a monologue never answering precise questions and a real possibility of checking by calorimetry by heating a container or house on days, weeks and months, to eliminate any form of storage by battery hidden inside !!!

For the moment the sentences with basic contradictions in logic are not credible to justify a real scientific investigation of this device.

The main operating principles of FeMRaDD:
1 - Newton's three laws form the basis for understanding the dynamics of rotational motion.
Newton's first law, applied to rotational motion, implies thata body in rotary motion
uniform tends to remain in such a movement.
Anyone can check this on a bicycle wheel but this is no reason for this launched bicycle wheel to go up the hills in perpetuity without stopping !!
FeMRaDD specific turbines integrated in a cylinder specific technical characteristics are trained by an acceleration force produced by a certain quantity or even a certain quantity of nitrogen with defined technical characteristics under a determined pressure and leaving 31 or more injectors depending on the application case.
The turbines inside the cylinder rotate at an absolute speed V, the number of revolutions per minute varies according to
the application. Thus, in the application of FeMRaDD in the automotive field, measuring instruments
allow a prior regulation of the maximum speed required, depending on the weight GVW and the speed
maximum of the vehicle concerned. The variations of the speed are governed in complement by all the security organs.
2 - The permanent operation of turbines in closed circuit requires a perfect sealing of the cylinder.
Indeed, the nitrogen circulating under a certain pressure inside the cylinder, absolutely requires a perfect seal.
Repeating the same sentence does not make it clearer.
The perfect fluidity of the rotation of the axis is indispensable as well as the regulation of the temperature of the nitrogen inside.
constituent bodies of FeMRaDD.
and absolutely nothing about where and how the energy comes out in this system !!! [

[dedeleco]

For the principle it is a rankine cycle but cleverly used.
For further details dedeleco will be happy to explain ...

Google and wiki explain better than I do that it's EDF's big turbine cycle
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_de_Rankine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankine_cycle

The Rankine cycle is a thermodynamic cycle whose lhas external heat source is passed to a closed loop that contains a fluid.
The Rankine cycle is sometimes referred to as a practical Carnot cycle because, when an efficient turbine is used, the TS diagram begins to resemble the Carnot cycle. The main difference is that heat addition (in the boiler) and rejection (in the condenser) are isobaric in the Rankine cycle and isentropic in the theoretical Carnot cycle.

So you need a hot spring and another cold source to do work with Rankine !
the FeMRaDD machine writes:
http://www.heat-solution.com/femradd-01-f.html

FeMRaDD is a set of dynamic rotating systems interacting with variable dimensions.
FeMRaDD works: without water, without fuel, without petrol,
without kerosene, without hydrogen, without the force of the wind, without air
compressed, without solar, without nuclear, without magnetism.
Multiple applications: electricity generation, aircraft,
automobile, train - boat - ... .all moving system
rotary axis.

and therefore works without any hot source (without any fuel giving heat) in total contradiction with the basic definition of the Rankine cycle !!

So still sentences with perfect logical contradictions to sleep upright !!
Fed up
and needless to go and check as long as they write such illogical statements

[Gaston]

the FeMRaDD machine writes:
http://www.heat-solution.com/femradd-01-f.html

FeMRaDD is a set of dynamic rotating systems interacting with variable dimensions.
FeMRaDD works: without water, without fuel, without petrol,
without kerosene, without hydrogen, without the force of the wind, without air
compressed, without solar, without nuclear, without magnetism.

Hopefully it works ... with a pressurized nitrogen source

[Obelix]

Hello,

So the clever ones the understanding is difficult ??
It is not a question of having a large bunch of diplomas, you simply need to have two cents worth of juggling skills and above all a critical spirit that is foolproof ...

Good, for those who have not yet understood:
A rankine cycle as so well said dedeleco consists of a hot source and a cold source. The warm ambient air the cold the relaxed air by setting in motion the turbine of tesla but only a part. The rest of the turbine recompresses the air and injects it back into the circuit.
This air recovers ambient heat and therefore rises in pressure and so on.
Hence my point: "clever" use of a cycle of rankine ....

Good I hope that the gossip worthy of a primary schoolyard
will now fly a bit higher in order to best explain the possibilities of such an assembly .....

Obelix

[Forhorse]

Explanation smoke inside ... as usual.
And since, of course, no one has ever seen it running, we can still discuss it for a long time.

[dedeleco]

Obelix lights up the smoker:

A rankine cycle as so well said dedeleco consists of a hot source and a cold source. The warm ambient air the cold the relaxed air by setting in motion the turbine of tesla but only a part. The rest of the turbine recompresses the air and injects it back into the circuit.
This air recovers ambient heat and therefore rises in pressure and so on.
Hence my point: "clever" use of a cycle of rankine ....

and so on it is very clear, the trick realizes the perpetual movement of Rankine Carnot !!!!!
The trick is clear; without cold source we make it from nothing by relaxing the air and we use it and if cold we heat it with the ambient air, without losing anything, by conjuring, which works only if we have no diplomas !!

It is not a question of having a large bunch of diplomas, you simply need to have two cents worth of juggling skills and above all a critical spirit that is foolproof ...

There are better, similar, the motor boat which works, leaving blocks of ice behind it as a cold source !!!
Only Carnot having never seen this real (he had too many diplomas!) Laid down his principle of Carnot, which only works with graduates !!!
And no graduate for 170 years after Carnot, has yet seen this !!
But as a graduate, I'm ready to bet anything that the unqualified Obelix has with "two cents of savvy", that this Carnot principle blocks the real functioning of this perpetual generator !! even for the gogos without diplomas which lack of juggernaut and especially of a critical spirit with any test so as not to be scammed !!!

[Tagor]

for some it is the irony, the doubt and even the very very skeptical attitude

for others no question of convincing they pass
in the production phase

In His forum, Rossi wrote:

We have passed already the phase to convince somebody. We are arrived to a product that is ready for the market. Our judge is the market. In this field the phase of the competition in the field of theories, hypothesis, conjectures etc etc is over. The competition is in the market. If somebody has a valid technology, he has not to convince people by chattering, he has to make a reactor that work and go to sell it, as we are doing.

Inquiries about purchasing are to be directed to info@leonardocorp1996.com

Rossi estimates that the cost of energy made with this system will be below 1 cent / kWh, in case of electric power made by means of a Carnot cycle, and below 1 cent / 4,000 MJ in case of thermal power production for heating purposes. That is several times cheaper than energy from fossil fuel sources such as coal or natural gas.

According to Rossi, the demonstrated device shown last Friday is their industrial product that is claimed to be reliable and safe. In normal operation it would produce 8 units of output for every unit of input. Higher levels of output are possible, but can be dangerous. They will soon start serial production of their modules. Combining the modules in series and parallel arrays it is possible to reach every limit of power. The modules are designed to be connected in series and parallels.

Rossi also says that they have had one reactor that has run continually for two years, providing heat for a factory. Also, the reactors can self sustain by turning off the input, but they prefer to have an input. The device will be scheduled for maintenance every six months. You control it "just as you turn on and off your television set."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmHZrhTQ ... er&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Ru1eAy ... er&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmHZrhTQ ... er&list=UL

[Gaston]

I am wrong or this generator (cold fusion) has nothing to do with the previous one (turbine with compressed nitrogen)?

It's amazing how many people are discovering standalone generators right now

[Forhorse]

Ben has 18.000 € the empty box which produces nothing, even if you sell only 1 or 2 before disappearing quickly in the countries of the east, you will have made a good deal
And too bad for the gogo who will have believed you!

Frankly, if you come to day to really discover how to make an autonomous generator, and that, even with the help of a large firm, you manage to actually build it, would you go sell it to whoever would like country fairs?

Personally it's not at all what I would do. Considering the price of energy, with perhaps the next emergence of electric transport. it would be more profitable and less risky to sell the energy produced, even below the market price, rather than to sell the machine which produces it, especially since inevitably it will be quickly copied and sold by others.
If you only sell energy, the know-how and the technique remain within your walls, it limits the risks of copying and guarantees huge profits ...

In short, this kind of announcement has no consistency, both scientific and commercial.

[dedeleco]

There are thousands of cold fusion types in published articles !!!
I would like to have the article of the Journal of Nuclear Physics to read it, because there must be some scientific coherence, for it to be published!
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360
They talk about energy catalyst ???? !!
http://pesn.com/2011/01/14/9501743_10_k ... _in_Italy/
I'll have to learn Italian better.

We must be able to find the long list of publications that leads to this result.
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.c ... _paper.pdf
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2009125444

I absolutely must understand their explanations because they claim to be consistent !!
nevertheless there remains a part in industrial secrecy.

It is H absorbed on Ni fused in copper !! and the energy is nuclear type !!

#
Andrea Rossi
January 16th, 2011 at 4: 01 PM

Dear Mr William:
1-I am the inventor of the method and the apparatus.
2- You are asking for me to give away for free technology and know how. It is impossible, for obvious reasons.
3- We have passed the phase to convince somebody. We are arrived at a product that is ready for the market. Our judge is the market.
In this field the phase of the competition in the field of theories, hypothesis, conjectures etc etc is over. The competition is in the market. If somebody has a valid technology, he has not been convince people by chattering, he has to make a reaction to it.
You are not convinced? It is not my problem. My problem is making my reactors work. I think that the reason for which I get to work is that of being able to work, so, instead of chattering and playing the big genius with mental masturbations, I wanted to work in the field, I was in charge of it, I was able to do it.
If somebody is convinced he has a good idea, he has not gotten to convince anybody by chattering, If a customer wants my product no problem, I go to another, without chatter or giving away free technology.
What I made is not a "Holy Grail", as you ironically say, is just a product. My Customers know it works, this is why they bought it, that's enough for me. We are investing to make a lot of money, and we are totally irrelevant to it.
In my opinion, I would like to say that I would like to invest my life, to convince somebody or more people that my reaction to work is contrary to the foundational rules of the economy.
To convince the world of our products If someone is convinced of having a product or a product, he or she has not done so.
Thank you for your useful inquiry,
Warm Regards,
Andrea Rossi
Dear Mr Svein Utne:
First of all, thank you for your kind interest. I am sorry, but I can not give information about the catalysts.
Warm regards,
AR
Mr. Rossi,

I have a few questions.

1) Who is the inventor (s) of this device? Is it yourself or yourself and others?

2) I would like to suggest that you release specific plans for a simple version of this device that can self-sustain. I recognize there are dangers involved. However, I personally know how to improve your skills in this area. The issue is that I know they would want to "guess" what is the best way to go forward. They have gone down that path before with other claims without success. If you could provide even basic plans for a simple version of your device it would be tremendously helpful. In such plans you could list ....

a) The size / shape / volume of the cell and it's material.
b) The part number of the resistor.
c) The input current / voltage.
The amount of nickle powder and a source for the powder.
e) How to put the powder in the cell. I have read that it is placed in a ceramic?
f) How much shielding would you recommend.
g) How to make sure that enough of the dihydrogen is being converted to hydrogen.

Basically, a "bill of materials" and a brief instruction guide.

Would you please consider this?

3) For the past two days I can find your technology. I am simply blown away. HOLY GRAIL of energy production. If this is the case the world needs ASAP. The best way I know to do this with replication by hundreds of people. Are you willing to help those who want to replicate?
You are right. In fact we can turn off the resistance: we do it regularly in our R&D center. The reason why in a module for the public we have to maintain a drive is connected with safety reasons.
No crucial info is in the future patent, and he does not want to be mowed!

If true, by selling a walking machine it will be mowed suddenly !!
in any case, he looks more serious and he believes in it!
And some got tired of measuring the energy that comes out higher than what comes in with temperatures ???
He was talking about positronium and 2 photons!

If true, ITER will end in oblivion.

if its nuclear catalyst is true and effective, it risks farting the earth, because it becomes possible to merge the hydrogen nuclei all together into iron nuclei which gives a collosal energy (iron is the nuclear state, minimum energy, there the energy is preserved !!!!) who can get carried away and blow everything up like in a supernova if his catalyzer gets carried away !!
In addition it must not be safe with particles emitted!
I am skeptical because the center of the sun to millions of degrees is not able to make iron!