GEGENE or the so-called Holy Grail?

[gegyx]

It does not "relax" me, that you give your opinion.

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Yes, I did not specify.

I used your sentence to show what is happening on this subject (subject).

Because in this forum, before the laws of thermo, there are rules of decorum, not respected by a small group of individuals, who claim to be "defenders of science".

By cons the beginning of my message was for you.

For now, I hear "go back to your country ... I will let go of the dogs ... I will let go of the pack ...
So soon the extermination, if I understand correctly?

[BobFuck]

Well, when you are thick, obstinate, and determined to pass for an idiot, why be surprised that this is what happens to you?

> in this forum, before the thermo laws, there are
> rules of decorum

How long has respect for decency applied to individuals of your species? Respect is earned ...

[Fakir]

Well, when you are thick, obstinate, and determined to pass for an idiot, why be surprised that this is what happens to you?

> in this forum, before the thermo laws, there are
> rules of decorum

How long has respect for decency applied to individuals of your species? Respect is earned ...

3 months of existence on this forum and words without respect ...
I preferred the time of Dede, Dede who did not attack people and defended, with undoubtedly too much energy, his ideas.

That this montage is unlikely to work, this is undoubtedly true.

But please, stop attacks on people, it looks like in full inquisition. Autodafés are out of date these days. Nobody is trying to sell you a free energy vacuum cleaner!

To put it simply, messages containing a vulgar word or an insult should be moderated.

[Obamot]

Ideally, we can only agree with you Bidouille, let's see the facts.

You would not all have tilted a little on the title of the subject and especially on the word "GRAAL" ????

Bein, it was the one who wrote this that first had to tweak it, didn't it?
It is THEN that in view of the endless debate that we make the connection. And then these are the themes and the title of the other forum! (UFOs,)

The question is: are these people honest? Do they really have something under their elbow? For the moment the answer is no (I do not speak for Rossi, I do not know him and have not studied his case, although the blow of the Conference left me with a bitter aftertaste ...).
We are dealing with many of them - I am talking about those for whom they lack a certain righteousness, as we find everywhere - with very skilful manipulators (examples flock in this forum). For others, those who believe by dogmatism, by conviction and / or by ideal it is harder. Because they have the feeling of being misunderstood, in a ghetto, etc ...! Either blame them or what do I know. For them only one way out: intellectual honesty and transparency and humility! At the same time attacking them does the opposite, it strengthens their ranks ...

Honestly, if you were attacked on a very controversial subject, that you weren't even able to explain or document, or that you weren't able to answer any question: would you hang on ? Do you even dare to write or publish anything? And then would you defend that? Those who are in this case are in a dirty posture.

But are there not signs of mystification or of an esorteric gait? Or even purely dishonesty and lies? It is not a personal attack, but an observation: yes there is, it is what perspires and which one cannot not see. It is this kind of thing (we do not answer questions except by pirouettes, etc., we treat others from the top while only dialoguing in small groups, etc.) that makes you come out after a while from your reserve!
But then again, no honest and balanced dialogue is possible, because you are immediately accused of "Ugly Duckling»Embellished with the most heinous lies on your account if you express an opinion in this direction: unforeseen effect for the" advertising agency ", it also causes the ranks to narrow in the camps opposite: the boomerang effect

Basically, those who are sincere - I mean those who are the flock who obediently follow the fan club, as much as those who are not but who do research at their own level (only Quartz would have the reputation to do so here, but he has no ethics, so he is not "reliable", which does not mean that he is not sincere) - in short, these sincere people are unknowingly doing the PUB. ..! So you, me, anyone, knowingly participating in this voluntarily contributes to it, and saying nothing too, hence the dilemma. And that's what we have the right not to accept. Being instrumentalized.

And it is quite clear that there is NO ANSWER, but a continuous smoke that ends in seven years becoming brainwashing for some, a conspiracy against their "step" for others. There is evidence: like for example not giving an explanation when asked kindly, without damaging the personality. And we get a nice fog in return ..

in itself seeking and wanting to believe does not bother anyone.

Presenting a topic doesn't bother anyone

Not believing in the purpose of the project is legitimate but does not (normally) bother anyone.

Believing in the possibility of the project does not bother anyone either (a priori)

So why so much personal attack ?????

It doesn't bother anyone:
- as long as you don't take people high.
- as long as you don't exclude anyone and don't do it in esotericism.
- as long as we set an example in terms of honesty and probity.
- as soon as we respect the rules of ethics: like for example not publishing anything until we are sure of a result, it is BASIC.
- as long as the (presumed) researcher does not himself issue his own ethical rules to distort the game.
- as long as we do not threaten others because of their opinions which would not go in the direction of the hair ...!
etc

So the elements around a possible “conspiracy” apply both ways. As much as there can be such situations in science (but you have to go back to Copernicus and Galiae so that we lock them up ^^) as much as there can be among the sounders who live on subsidies while their projects are windy . And there it starts to stink.

As much on one side as on the other I would say, and if simply put out the white flag ????

Stop break

It has been floating on my side for 12 pages, and apparently in the opposite camp (which alone considers to be a unilaterally opposed camp) there is no interest in it.

So on my right the "quicroie" and on my left the "quicroiepas"

Questions of science are a bit like questions of isolation. No matter how hard you believe that a concrete wall is not thermally conductive and insulates against the cold in a comfortable way, it can hardly be the case.
As a result, science is not a matter of belief or fervor in ideas, but in skills! It's just as basic isn't it?

So (both eat swing gum but which one of the tonigum lol),

so I would also add a group, the "quiveulentycroiresimplementsansfairechierperson",

The question is: who does what (?) To whom (?) How and why (?)

We can suddenly introduce myself I start:
so me fred say hack 'quiveulentycroiresimplementsansfairechierpone' I am interested in the subject and curious about the tests done

Same: I await the answers to the questions asked by Bob ..........! Without being called "an accariâtre hydra", or "Dr Jekyll & Mister Hyde" because at the moment, those who "hide»Know who knows

On the other hand, to present things simply without putting in them a religious belief (the GRAAL is one of them), neither of aggression, nor any feeling as already said.

Just facts, steps

And also answers when you ask questions: Gégyx, Quartz, it's for you ...!

The "quicroiepas" can take all the measurements or the connection or and protocol.

This is precisely where it gets stuck on all floors .... (Even if it's not a question of believing it or not ... It would be better to distance ourselves from that, knowing that we are ALL fallible humans )

That said, they must do it in the same way as the others, that is to say, without religious belief, harassment, or feeling.
Just facts and analysis clear what he believes to be wrong or wrong and why.

I would say that it is even their only solution to be credible. This is what is unfinished in this debate .... And so the question is: why they do not "play the game" ????

This ultimately in order to allow the reader to have a clear view of the ideas and counter ideas developed.

Frankly currently what I do not understand is that it is in the interest to speak badly and verbally attacked someone whatever it is for an idea ???

And apparently it is a situation that seems to "please" those who remain in the gray area ...

and as the other said (Voltaire;)): "I do not share your ideas but I will fight to the death so that you can express them"

When we manipulate, lie, slander, are we still at the stage of the expression of ideas?

And love each other if possible. "Coluche"

And not on top of each other ahahahahahahahaha .... I go out -> []

you know what, your whole post only confirms that you are an extra guy, like a lot on this forum.

And happy new year anyway

Happy New Year Fred.

[Obamot]

Bein for once, in all friendship, I do not agree with Fakir, DD constantly attacked people, indiscriminately, both those who supported him (including me for a very long time and who harvested green wood at will all this time). Which is not always the case with Bob! Well, it's a little rough, but there are kicks in the rear end that get lost in this forum, if you ask me.
Know again, that it does not call into question my overall vision. Even those who are ready to calmly study interscientific questions (I am referring to the paranormal) are not without interest: but TRANSPARENCY is necessary. There are cases successfully studied at CHUV and HUG, which are major scientific centers.

So all this debate around the rejection of "ugly little independent persecuted researchers", even if it is not to be excluded, is in this specific case, gnognotte. And there are ways to prove it.
But I'm not talking about other cases that I don't know about. No way to put everyone in the same basket.

...
... explain technically what (...) cannot work ....

Simply violation of the second law of thermodynamics, no need to look any further.
Will it take another 55 pages to arrive at .... what already? The credibility of this forum ?

You have reinforcements, but not in the same camps

[...] In the process, you will be able to discover internet technicians with a scientific streak, who defend fervently thermodynamics, [...]

[Edit: link] source
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post248097.html#248097

[...] reporting hidden measurement errors.

Rhôoooo: had to tell us everything, why "hide" "measurement errors ..."

[Alain G]

Obamot!

you only make the chicane worse with your comments, as well as lessdewatt which does not bring anything scientific apart from its stupid comments!


Let those who know what they are talking about debate instead of diluting the subject as you enjoy doing it so well!


No?


Bobfuck got carried away because he saw you and lessdewatt leave in the decline of language and finally said we can do it!


Can we go back to the original subject and those who did not find the reading error, please do not hesitate to answer!

And please stop responding on each text comment as you do because it starts to be revenge and nothing else!

Start taking these warnings seriously!

The thank you box

[Alain G]

And tell me why Obamot does not appear in the list of members who have visited the site during the last hour and since midnight?

[Obamot]

To have peace, on Christophe's advice, to avoid being harassed by people who harass ...

Beware that there would be no more account to give you, as soon as you show yourself a little too partial. And I would be sorry if that continued to be the case. You must also be objective in your point of view, as much towards each other. But thank you for letting me down on the occasion anyway. But here I describe substantial observations on the merits. I am not the only one to do it ... But perhaps one of the only ones who resists insults without getting into it too. But I am not asking for a sanction.

Alain G:

Your point of view has been respected many times.

I gladly submitted to THE question (I speak in old French).

Behavior and language have been adapted to please ...

Those who continue their insults are not worried in their remarks, them!

Despite no scathing opinion for 12 pages, you never stopped to "crop" me ....

So there you freak me serious. I say it friendly ^^

You do not have the monopoly of the heart and moral rigor in this forum
and in this regard, there is no "accountability".

In addition there is no contradiction with the site admin in this section

Indeed the surunitaire is not my cup of tea and I have nothing to defend on this side the [...] I simply created this part of the forum to be able to discuss on the subject ... pro or anti ...

And it turns out that I am not obtuse to be "anti", as for being "pro", I do not have to be, and will necessarily be the day when it will be proven (if it is true). possible, but rather no, as it is and in this specific context, if we find in this area, it will be “something else” amha, but not overunity).

There is one that exceeds the limits in this thread, and it must only attack him not ...

Basically, this is you who divert the debate from the bottom

[Cuicui]

I suggest that any intervention containing attacks on people (insults, mockery, sarcasm) now deserves only one answer: Troll.
And we go straight on. Who agrees ?

[BobFuck]

Bobfuck got carried away because he saw you and lessdewatt leave in the decline of language and finally said we can do it!

I did not get carried away *, on the contrary, I remained very polite, I find, after all, I am only saying what is ...