E-cat Andrea Rossi is back!

[Gaston]

When I say it doesn't matter, it means that it is not with your money that this myth or lie will raise funds or a factory. Those who invest (except to be stupid) take a whole lot of precaution, do audits, forecasts of return on investment, etc ... So, if they are wrong or are wrong, it's their business: or they win or they lose, it's part of the game!

In the end, you support Rossi's "commercial" approach (it doesn't hurt us) without taking sides on the merits of the case.

But what interests me (and others here) is not whether investors will lose their shirts, it is whether the E-Cat works
And for the moment, I have not seen any convincing proof of its functioning

PS
I specify that for me a convincing proof could be a theory which would explain the operation or an experiment with serious measurements.

[Janic]

Janic wrote:
When I say it doesn't matter, it means that it is not with your money that this myth or lie will raise funds or a factory. Those who invest (except to be stupid) take a whole lot of precaution, do audits, forecasts of return on investment, etc ... So, if they are wrong or are wrong, it's their business: or they win or they lose, it's part of the game!
In the end, you support Rossi's "commercial" approach (it doesn't hurt us) without taking sides on the merits of the case.

But what interests me (and others here) is not whether investors will lose their shirts, it is whether the E-Cat works

I fully understand any intellectual curiosity and the forums participate. However knowing if there is "commercial" deception is possible, technical deception, there are only those who have examined closely and without a priori who can answer it, not us far away with scraps only. So let's give time to time and it will sort it out to the advantage or the disadvantage of the inventor.

And for the moment, I have not seen any convincing proof of its functioning

as I pointed out earlier, the evidence is dependent on who sees it as such (that's the whole problem of the courts) or not.
thus, for comparison, a multitude of people, including many scientists around the world, believe in HIV when there is no evidence. It is the relativity of mental subjectivity where reality and beliefs confront each other.

[ARMAND]

Having worked professionally in the world of innovation when I was in business, I can tell you that some investors do not hear that poic whether in physics, technology or anything else, if not finance -lol- ... an example among others, when I explained to an investor, already a business owner, that the project (of a third party) which he supported with his money could not succeed because it obscured an essential element of physics (in this case destructive cavitation bubbles) I was told about free energy, tesla, the energy of magnets etc ... after four years, it has threw in the towel, he lost around 200 € (he told me, I smell much more)

This sidi I am unable to say if Rossi is right, although I am skeptical about a cold chemical fusion ... Rossi's past does not plead for him, it smells of the guy who wants to compensate for a previous personal failure ...

[raymon]

This sidi I am unable to say if Rossi is right, although I am skeptical about a cold chemical fusion ... Rossi's past does not plead for him, it smells of the guy who wants to compensate for a previous personal failure ...

I don't care if Rossi is a crook or not what's important is that cold fusion or LENR is a reality and that's the important point.

[Gaston]

I don't care if Rossi is a crook or not what's important is that cold fusion or LENR is a reality and that's the important point.

For the moment, this is only a reality if we believe what Rossi says.
So the question of his credibility is important

And like Obamot, I find that he weaves too much in his answers

[raymon]

For the moment, this is only a reality if we believe what Rossi says.

You do not know the subject learn a little better.
Ask Google.

[Gaston]

You do not know the subject learn a little better.

I think I know him as well as many speakers here.
But if that's your only argument, it won't help convince me ...

I see that you are always quick to criticize but that you bring very little material to the discussion.

[Exnihiloest]

I don't care if Rossi is a crook or not what's important is that cold fusion or LENR is a reality and that's the important point.

For the moment, this is only a reality if we believe what Rossi says ...

False statement: dozens of physicists, more credible than Rossi, also say so.

It would surely be wise to read the information already given.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 03575.html
http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1127

[Gaston]

I agree, my previous answer was incomplete, I should have written "For the moment, this is not a reality in the e-cat that if we believe what Rossi says ... ".

Since this is the topic of discussion in this thread, it seemed implicit to me.

[Obamot]

False assertion: dozens of physicists, more credible than Rossi, also say it

False assertion based on nothing, always the same sites and the same jerk. And above all the same fallacies. Besides, we should no longer talk about "cold fusion" so we can feel the drift coming fast! What is funny is that if Exnihiloest were really consistent and impartial, he would treat Rossi's forfeiture with the same incisive tone but taken at its source (with variable geometry) like any other forfeiture *, there it would be very Quickly noticed, on analysis it wouldn't last 30 seconds. But no, he shows himself extremely complaisant on this file! So for me his interventions here reek of intrigue (or incompetence of your choice). He is really very suspicious of someone who claims to be extremely sharp on details not to make as many reservations about a completely rotten case now!

* (which he likes so much to dissect what he believes to be the obvious) but brief

For the moment, this is only a reality if we believe what Rossi says.

You do not know the subject learn a little better.

You don't know who you're talking to. So obviously, if there is one here who does not know how to find out, it is you.

Ask Google.

For the moment, if this is YOUR only source of information, indeed it is very poor for someone who has barely attended school: In short, you are not "better" informed than those you pretend not to be: CQFD!

By cons when at the editorial. I go to websites that give access to embargoed information, we discover things ...

So thank you for stopping this beautiful smoke of fanatics. And to stop your blah-blah-blah which has been going on for more than five years, you have largely exceeded the limits of fed up.

Because other than that, we don't see you talking much about "greatness of thXenergy "or ITE (with them no need for E-dog to heat ...) new solar panels with 46% efficiency, neither thermodynamic solar, nor heat storage by phase shift, nor new graphene ultracapacitors which have just been marketed with 1mio of charge / discharge cycle, neither those not with graphene from G&E, nor from the Mirai and fuel cells, nor on topics on hydrogen production, nor etc, nor etc, so for me all your participations in this forum focus almost exclusively on lump sums (with rare exceptions to change things, and you always have to allow ambiguity to hover, is it not Elephant ...). Which makes your participations so many highly suspect indications.

If what I am saying is not true, all you need to do is mark a pose or when you post to be less insistent and less "oppressive" (in a group) and to be interested in SOMETHING much more constructive than "the wait of the big night"* For a while (for example until the"marketing" or until the arrest warrant ).
There is no shortage of other subjects!

RTDC.

* (term used elsewhere by Exnihiloest, which shows all the ambiguity of certain reasoning) but brief