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by Gaston » 20/06/12, 18:06

RealWheel wrote:On the merits, I do not agree with you. It is possible by spending little energy (friction) to create conditions of permanent imbalance in a machine.

In the case of a gravity wheel, there is then the appearance of a net torque and therefore of an output power without having spent anything other than the energy necessary to overcome friction.
It is also necessary to check the presence of the imbalance, and therefore of this couple on a complete revolution ...


RealWheel wrote:Before building any machine, we must first check that the theory gives positive results.
I agree, and a response like "it won't work because of friction" always leaves me unsatisfied. She suggests that it could work if the realization was better, but until now, no theoretical demonstration has shown that it was possible.

Since the equations of mechanics in all their current forms show that this is not possible, you were led to develop a new theory :?:
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by Alain G » 20/06/12, 18:25

RealWheel wrote:
Alain G wrote:
Before building any machine, we must first check that the theory gives positive results.



So you are not convinced!


Make a prototype and you will see!


I have been looking for something that works without finding anything valid for at least 10 years and I am not the first!


I only ask to see!


Good luck!


If you have manufacturing resources, we can agree on the construction of certain prototypes for which I have real certainties.



You can always send me mp designs of your prototypes so you're sure they work and I'll see if they can be made and if it can work!
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by Obamot » 20/06/12, 20:27

RealWheel wrote:I don't want to post on this forum because Christophe is not convinced of the possibility of amplifying energy in a machine.

You have to be a little paranoid to believe that this forum prevents someone from posting new ideas, when it is intended for that, as far as I understand! Isn't Christophe trying to stay lucid, for the rest of us ...

RealWheel wrote:Now, I do not hold it against him since we are graduates of the same school and that the Strasbourg teachers are not yet ready to admit the theories that I develop on surunity.

There you go, more syllogism. That is true? You know each other? Same supplier? Image

RealWheel wrote:In response to my proposal to build some machines, I was kindly sent back to my homes.

And so why not a dedicated site, rather than one that exists and which navigates in troubled waters .... (If ReelWheel has not seen, in its links of pseudo-companies there are some who have not made update for ages ... It's bogus, for me.)

RealWheel wrote:But all of this, again, makes sense.

"Logic" is what ReelWheel lacks when you read its words!

RealWheel wrote:Others than me, with very large degrees in nuclear physics encounter identical difficulties (see the report by Professors Forcardi and Rossi).

And hop, we would still be in the fallacy, definitely ...

Bein Alain G is really nice! What courage and selflessness.

ReelWheel: I've heard this type of discourse for more than forty years (I come from a family of "inventors"), my father always told me that I had to concretize, conceptualize any invention, develop it, put the contact: and ... see at the end ... what didn't work !!!

For machines "Supernumerary", I do not believe it. Tesla - if lost in the limbo of his brain, his antenna project could / could have worked as he intended at the time - he never did "than" recovering latent electric charges very present in the environment (which was already very meritorious to have understood that they existed and that one could take advantage of) there was therefore nothing "supernumerary»In there ... Yes, potentially it is not impossible that someone will one day be able to put it into practice! This is real, since we can see potential differences with an antenna between the top and the bottom of a building: now, are these loads sufficient? They will no doubt become so with electronic devices which consume less and less and thanks to progress in energy efficiency in general ... There, it is quite possible that we are rediscovering Tesla amha.

Because the real question is: what are their real proportions once we have removed other electric fields with reverse charge which would partially or totally cancel them? It is not yet won! So even if these fabulous machines could exist, they would only recover the latent energy of a physical phenomenon already existing in one form or another - or so as Gaston says, it would be necessary to rewrite a theoretical page - As it stands , even from the most optimistic perspective: it wouldn't be "excess».

So much for logic (but it's exhausting to repeat ...) : Lol:
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by moinsdewatt » 20/06/12, 20:39

prances wrote:Hello,

I bought this gentleman's book here: http://books.veljkomilkovic.com/
everyone knows Veljko Milcovic this inventor Serbec widely mentioned in this forum.

Who read this book?

Any opinions?

Pierre


Ah, it's more like a trash can but dump trucks.

When I think that it was necessary to cut trees to print this junk. It is a shame.
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by Alain G » 20/06/12, 20:39

Hey hey Obamot!

We have 2 weeks of respite and positivism so don't make things worse Please!

We are already breathing better on the forum and already several speakers cover the forum with a decorum of yesteryear!

I’m a little bit behind all that but hey !!!


Long live the holidays! : Mrgreen:
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by Obamot » 20/06/12, 21:20

... you skipped my parenthesis at the end : Mrgreen: (ok, ok I'll listen to you better)

But still the "kistiniaAnd others who are enlightened will not pass. I swear!

Moreover ReelWheel is going from supernumerary to afterburner ...>

(Dede come out of this body!) : Mrgreen: : Cheesy:
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by RealWheel » 22/06/12, 23:13

If you live in Quebec, you have no doubt heard of the CIEL association: [url] http://hydro-genial.com/ [url]
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by Alain G » 23/06/12, 08:32

RealWheel wrote:If you live in Quebec, you have no doubt heard of the CIEL association: [url] http://hydro-genial.com/ [url]



A site where you ask for money under good promise with no evidence and a wacky who knows absolutely nothing about electricity and electronics does not convince me at all!

The beautiful promises:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lojna6xN ... r_embedded

The wacky one who comes from the abitibi just like me:
2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Szy9E9 ... ure=relmfu

2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS3UNI9j ... re=related

2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo58xwv1 ... re=related

This last video shows us absolutely nothing but had to make one to continue to extract money from the poor victims!

: Evil:

There are still interesting things for those who have the patience to watch a few hours of video:

http://www.youtube.com/user/MouvementHydroGenial

At the end a Bedini wheel which does not work like the famous charger!

And the easy-to-make neostove that works well for him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhLfoPlO4Yk

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by Ahmed » 23/06/12, 08:48

I saw a video of these wacky people: realshell sinks (if possible !: mrgreen :).
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by RealWheel » 23/06/12, 12:42

Alain G wrote:
RealWheel wrote:If you live in Quebec, you have no doubt heard of the CIEL association: [url] http://hydro-genial.com/ [url]



A site where you ask for money under good promise with no evidence and a wacky who knows absolutely nothing about electricity and electronics does not convince me at all!

The beautiful promises:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lojna6xN ... r_embedded

The wacky one who comes from the abitibi just like me:
2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Szy9E9 ... ure=relmfu

2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS3UNI9j ... re=related

2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo58xwv1 ... re=related

This last video shows us absolutely nothing but had to make one to continue to extract money from the poor victims!

: Evil:

There are still interesting things for those who have the patience to watch a few hours of video:

http://www.youtube.com/user/MouvementHydroGenial

At the end a Bedini wheel which does not work like the famous charger!

And the easy-to-make neostove that works well for him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhLfoPlO4Yk

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We don't get mad! I just wanted to know if there were unusual inventions! Personally, I don't understand anything, either in Quebec or in English!
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