I just invented the perpetual motion engine I think

[snapshoot]

1 / the reaction force which is applied on the other end of part N ° 4 is more useful than you think;
a / it is she who "pushes" part N ° 4 along the horizontal plane.
b / this same end of the part is a sliding wheel to optimize the movement and reduce friction on this point.
as already explained in the presentation ..... read well before saying anything!



2 / the material itself is an inexhaustible energy .....
I just knew how to exploit it, well I think.


3 / I begin to doubt your ability to debate on this very specific theme of physics

[Gaston]

1 / the reaction force which is applied on the other end of part N ° 4 is more useful than you think;
a / it is she who "pushes" part N ° 4 along the horizontal plane.

And the vertical component of this force

b / this same end of the part is a sliding wheel to optimize the movement and reduce friction on this point.
as already explained in the presentation .....

The wheel is only useful if it turns ...
As long as the system is in equilibrium at standstill

read well before saying anything!

Understood, I will not say anything more on this subject ... since criticism is prohibited.

3 / I begin to doubt your ability to debate on this very specific theme of physics

The same

[plasmanu]

In my qualities and skills as a surface technician
I would rather lean towards the exploitation of "dark energy"
Still misunderstood to this day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy

But we must be wary of Einstein when he talks about infinite (unlimited) things.
According to him: there is the universe, and I forgot the other

[Surfeurseb]

Me it still bothers me a little when I read motor and perpetual in the same sentence.
Succeeding in rotating something indefinitely, that is, but in this case it is a mechanism: it does not lose its initial energy, does not produce another.
A "well-oiled" mechanism can run for a long time, especially if you put the dose in energy at the start!

An engine provides energy. Where does it come from?
In addition, you start the engine, without knowing where the energy comes from: how do you dose it? Is your engine going to run?
If there really was energy produced, should we see the system speed increase very quickly?
Or then you think to brake the system easily (by transforming kinetic energy into electricity for example). Do you think you are recovering a lot of energy? Just a little bit? Finally, not much?
Already that the planned system should barely manage to compensate for friction, there should not be much room.

The problem is, there may not be any margin at all ...

Since the time that I see passing this kind of subject, I have not resisted giving my opinion

[dedeleco]

Surfeurseb with:

In addition, you start the engine, without knowing where the energy comes from: how do you dose it? Is your engine going to run?

doesn't seem to have realized that snapshoot is a negator of the reality of energy conservation, a long tradition, very stubborn whatever the valid arguments as he writes:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/les-negati ... 11692.html


https://www.econologie.com/forums/post233444.html#233444

3 / there is no energy expenditure; the force F1 (permanent) results from the pressure of the gas contained in the space or the volume which is between part N ° 3 and part N ° 4.
this pressure therefore, is exerted on the internal and horizontal wall of part N ° 4, it is the force F1 itself.
the potential pressure energy which is trapped in this volume will not be exhausted, because the gas cannot escape or expand.
so we should not reason according to the energy approach, but rather dynamic, because the force F1 is there, and it (normally) turns part N ° 4 in a permanent movement (since the cause, which F1, is also permanent)."

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https://www.econologie.com/forums/les-negati ... 11692.html

Since he is in another negationist world, it is very difficult to convince him.

[snapshoot]

And the vertical component of this force

with a drawing, you will understand:

[snapshoot]

I use the "potential" energy of pressurized gas in another way, that's all!

a pressurized gas trapped in a fairly tight volume can be trapped for thousands of years, this permanent energy-force of pressure I want to use it intelligently.

[Obamot]

I use the "potential" energy of pressurized gas in another way, that's all!

Uh no: the calculation of the "moment" is a completely classic operation ...!

a pressurized gas trapped in a fairly tight volume can be trapped for thousands of years, this permanent energy-force of pressure I want to use it intelligently.

Well, as soon as you release it, to spin your machine ... you will lose it!

Besides, it is very difficult to keep a stable pressure in a confined enclosure ... It would be easier to create a vacuum there ...

And besides you will need a lot of energy to compress the gas ... Except if it is a propulsion system of the compressed air type (or any other gas), we know that the yield does is not good. you are not the first to have thought of it!

Do a research on compressed air car (MDI) and you will see as much the principle of the engine as the related problems ...

[plasmanu]

The pressure of what?

The gas will relax and natively will not find its pressure.
The pressure is on an atmospheric basis. But not only.

Note if it rotates with the Earth's atmospheric pressure it's cool

[snapshoot]

1 / the pressure will not be lost because the gas will not relax, since it is fully compressed and confined, already said 100 times! .... yes, pork is not good for the brain and I have to explain each time

2 / the gas will be injected only once, at the very start of arming the mechanism, then that's it.