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by Christophe » 06/07/15, 23:17

Will rot another forum !

And learn to write and especially respect if you want to take a minimum seriously!
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by Remundo » 07/07/15, 07:54

Mr. Fredenergie,

your personal achievement honors you, but not your spelling and your style, however, the subject is not there.

A multitude of "inventors" seek perpetual motion, and other superunitary mechanisms.

Among all this research, there are those who try the unbalanced wheels (like yours), according to various techniques.

However, no physics experiment has ever shown that gravitational force provides energy gain on a trajectory closed to an object. From here on, any unbalanced wheel without an internal or external source of energy, whatever its articulations / internal mobilities, can at best conserve its energy, and in reality, its internal or external friction (with the air by ex) irreversibly slow it down to a complete stop.

If you build your wheel, you will only be able to see this phenomenon, unless we find a way to communicate energy to your masses so that they go back periodically.

Cordially !
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by Gaston » 07/07/15, 10:03

fredenergie71 wrote:you better explain why it's not working
That's what I tried to do, but you did not even make the effort to read the content of my answer.

Yes, placed vertically, your system will move, but it will stop horizontally because it is STABLE balance position.
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by fredenergie71 » 07/07/15, 10:56

Gaston wrote:
fredenergie71 wrote:you better explain why it's not working
That's what I tried to do, but you did not even make the effort to read the content of my answer.

Yes, placed vertically, your system will move, but it will stop horizontally because it is STABLE balance position.
hello gaston and all, I just read a little and I think I farted my cable last night with abusive words, so sorry, I went too far, so I make you all but flat excuse and especially to Mr Christophe (no one is perfect), I hope you will not hold me any more rigor sorry and of course ahmed and all the others, otherwise to answer M.gaston sorry for the delay, so I do not agree on telling you for my system why, because you will have more weight to one exterminated than the other, with my system and, even horizontally, so it will never stay horizontally but will continue its way down and will be still horizontal well water is found at the bottom and goes up so two weights above the top of the axis against one down, so for me there is a difference of the total weight between the top and bottom and so at each faith that the water rises up the tube will tilt down, the tube will t very important will be blocked by a mechanical mechanism of two function one that will block and the other will release it at a certain pressure of force, the tube will not really maintained by the mechanism has the perfect vertical but a slight shift thank you, here are readings if it can help a thank you and excuse me still for yesterday a + http://rcdnm.discutforum.com/t2783-la-reprise-du-sujet
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by Ahmed » 07/07/15, 12:37

As far as I am concerned, and although not directly involved, yesterday's outburst is forgotten ... 8)

You add "complications" to allow the imbalance: the energy necessary to move them would absorb that which (hypothesis!) Would result from this imbalance.
In reality, your error stems from the fact that nothing is calculated, but this is the basis of physics: "it seems that", but after calculation everything will necessarily balance out.
Physics is not intuitive, far from it!

I will give you an example of the conservation of energy: the influence of the moon causes the tides and a slight uplift of the earth's crust which causes friction dissipating energy and slowing down the speed of rotation of the earth. Earth; for the law to be verified it is therefore necessary that the speed of the moon increases slightly (and therefore that incidentally it moves away from a few cm / year). Common sense suggests that the two stars are slowing down ...

This example also illustrates that a perpetual movement can not provide energy with impunity and that energy can only be transformed and not created ...
A force like gravity is not an energy and can not be a source of it; Of course, the example of hydraulic dams seems to contradict this statement: it is only truncated reasoning that provokes this illusion, because the source of energy is that of the sun which, evaporating the water, raises it beforehand.
Just as is illusory, and for the same reason, that stopping to dissipate a maximum of energy would more surely make us return "to the age of the caves and the candle (sic!)", Whereas the reverse is much more plausible and arguable.
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by moinsdewatt » 07/07/15, 15:03

Another trash wire.
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by fredenergie71 » 07/07/15, 15:07

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by Gaston » 07/07/15, 15:20

Since we will not be able to convince you either by simple explanations or by theoretical calculations, it remains for me to wish you good luck in the realization of your systems.

Two tips nonetheless:
- do not spend too much time and money on it
- Do not blame the quality of the realization if it does not work as you would like.
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by fredenergie71 » 07/07/15, 18:12

hello yes thank you gaston and ahmed sorry for the delay thank you for still consecrated a bit of time, to answer your example ahmed, if there is an action of nature there is necessarily a reaction, so yes after an action there is always a reaction by the energy of nature or natural, my system too, it uses this simple natural principle which has to take advantage of the weightlessness on a distance that I defined to activate the weights in the tube and thus reassembled a fluid of total weight which will be less than the total weight exerting this transfer when the tube will be only at the vertical, therefore = a potential energy of the weights starting from a natural vector for the effect of the weights on the weightlessness, so we sum agree a potential energy ,,, so exploitable that does not come from zero by and so for me if the weight in the tube from above is greater than the weight of the fat bottom to the water in addition to the top must switch, anyway had already planned d e make a first prototype and thus understand and apprehend the different parameter that interact with each other, so at the end of next week I come with my balance sheet thank you 8) 8) 8) I take this opportunity to propose another silly system, question can we exploit this mechanism for the only expected power consumption will be one or two small engine fixed on the cable to give slack to the left cable and also the right one for the weight can at a time determine press the tank on the left a faith on the ground and thus raise the water in the tank on the right, vis versa, of course I did not specify the valve valves antiturn water area ect .. .ect. ... just the idea with her, can we produce more than what consumes thank you http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=496270001.jpg
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by moinsdewatt » 07/07/15, 18:30

Beautiful punctuation course. : Shock:
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