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by Other » 09/05/08, 16:13

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This is not visible in the photo, but as the engine and the system were mounted, it can be said that the engine outlet was about 50 centimeters lower than the engine air intake. This eliminates any risk of causing the intake of the engine water in the liquid state.


It's a mistake and probably too much water in the GV
why do you think the compact bubbler system is more functional? the outlet temperature would have told you what is happening in the reactor, even at half speed,

I favor the theory of Exocéan that the vapor produced in the GV or the bubbler.

It is not on the reactor that it is necessary to work its construction is tolerant, Hypnos el'on cpompris they sell the reactor and the complicated part to realize on a car is the bubbler or the GV, its developed for a variable regime makes it difficult to make it work.
before automating it is necessary to find the parameters for reference

And how much do you estimate your reductions in consumption after your modifications and prolonged experiments?


With a Mercedes 300D turbo engine 5 cylinders 3litres automatic, I go down between 5,9 liters and 6,4litres
whether I drive at 110 km / h or at 70km / h it is approximately the same thing, when driving a small intermittent trip it increases close to 8 liters. (those who have had these old vehicles know how much it consumes)
The next step is to reset the injectors for a long time they have been on the vehicle.

I would not describe all the unsuccessful experiences that I try, there are more bad moves than good, some think that it is easily done have a montage and it works the first time (it never happened to me)

Andre
Automate regulation, it's a factory under the hood
with the experience and the observation of manual adjustments we ended up
understand what to adjust ..
You must first master well at constant speed.

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Control with solid relay stage
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by Remundo » 09/05/08, 16:51

Thank you André,

Pretty mechanical!

Well, I saw this on the Internet about your 5 1984 automatic turbo cyl model:
"European model builder who gave
to 90kmh 8l
to 120kmh 10,9l
city ​​10,4l "


So you save a lot of fuel. How much did you consume before making the Gillier Pantone, the same kind as these data?

In any case, for a big car of this era, with a turbo engine and automatic gearbox, a consumption of 7L / 100, it's really good!
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by Other » 09/05/08, 18:03

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Remundo wrote:Thank you André,

Pretty mechanical!

Well, I saw this on the Internet about your 5 1984 automatic turbo cyl model:
"European model builder who gave
to 90kmh 8l
to 120kmh 10,9l
city ​​10,4l "


So you save a lot of fuel. How much did you consume before making the Gillier Pantone, the same kind as these data?

In any case, for a big car of this era, with a turbo engine and automatic gearbox, a consumption of 7L / 100, it's really good!


Was my consumption before doping in water a little less than the manufacturer's values? from 8,5 to 9,2 liter in long-distance driving from 100 km / h, 110kmh, on average 9 liters to 100km on main roads I use these values ​​for my calculations.

If I take the consumptions of the manufacturer, my% is even better .. The goal is not to peter scores but to do it on all trips and repetitively ..

Andre

Reactor outlet temperature at different speeds
Photo taken today
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Sometimes it exceeds 200c and once hot it stays long enough even if the power is reduced.
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by Remundo » 12/05/08, 10:49

Nice equipment!

it can be understood, it is the thermal inertia of the metal that must do that : Idea:

363000 km, that's where Merco is, we don't do it like that anymore :D
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by Flytox » 12/05/08, 11:12

Hello André

The indicator at the bottom left is the temperature of the reactor inlet?
When it has 2 values ​​displayed, the one on the right is the maximum value obtained?
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by gegyx » 12/05/08, 11:33

Hello Andre

You have to pass the dust cloth every day on your machine.

These photos are really good.

There are all indicators at the same time.
There is even the fuel level differential based on the 37 km traveled.
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by bpval » 12/05/08, 13:20

Hello André

There is ...
one thing that grieves me 8)

Your oil pump ... Ok I'm not a specialist

But whether at 1500 rpm, 2500 or even 3000, your oil pressure mano is always at 3

Beware of hypertension :D

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by bpval » 12/05/08, 13:22

Jokes aside

Hat for your instrumentation
Working pro
I admire

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