Completion of engine test bed Direct Reaction test!

[the middle]

Hello,
At home, at work, when we have to eliminate black smoke at the flare, we inject everything around the flame, steam to 180 ° C, and this vapor is found at 6 bars in the lines.
We already talked about it, but never gave the characteristics of this vapor. Because there is steam and steam (at least 4 categories)

[Flytox]

Hello Lejuste

Can you detail your 4 categories of steam and what you do with it?
A+

[boubka]

Hello
there are two types of steam: saturated or superheated
in the case of lejuste c is necessarily overheated because at 6 bars in saturated steam you have 158 degrees
http://www.protec-traitement.com/23_COR ... ESSION.htm
http://www.thermexcel.com/french/ressourc/vapeur.htm

[boubka]

hello lejuste
I think that in the "4 types" you detail the bp and the hp?

[the middle]

Hello Lejuste

Can you detail your 4 categories of steam and what you do with it?
A+

Tchaaa, I hate this kind of question, normally my job asks me to know all this ... Go, Vb, vC ... pouff all the terms that make me chi ..
So, tomorrow, I will take the risk of passing for an idiot and ask questions, or I will delve into the documentation (which I should know )
Answer tomorrow evening unless I have too much work, like lately
Between us, all I remembered from these p ..... vapors is that the hotter they are, the more severe the burn

[the middle]

hello lejuste
I think that in the "4 types" you detail the bp and the hp?

Boubka, you start to annoy me !!!!!
I can't stand this relationship with you anymore!
It seems to me that you have enormous potential, as well as a lot of knowledge (I have noticed this for some time on Écono)
I would like to know you more in private, always this problem of writing which is not very convivial, human ...
You'll have to take a blah blah ride on skype one of these days if you don't mind ...
On skype: alain1959
Contact me, please

[AXEAU]

Bonjour,
Since the time that we know the ingredients and the dosages which it is necessary to put in an engine, I wonder if someone has thought to know how to place them. Today we are in the direct injection stratified of gasoline. We could separate the nitrogen from the oxygen in order to obtain in the center the fuel + oxygen mixture then the vapor and finally the nitrogen a bit like an egg, the yellow, the white and the shell. nitrogen away from oxygen and close to the walls because I think it is less conductive of calories. I think that there would be a complete combustion with less rejection of nitrogen oxide and possibly we would do without catalyst .
For the steam I know nothing about it, if someone can inform me, I am taker. In my case I made return the vapor as close as possible to the valve adm because the difference of t ° prevents it from mix with the air column, but then?
To return to the location of the reactor and avoid disturbing the exhaust too much, it could be installed independently with a burner to obtain controlled temperature.
I apologize because I did not follow everything you did so I may be harping on or deserving the tank top.
A+
jlg

[Flytox]

Could we separate the nitrogen from the oxygen in order to obtain in the center the fuel + oxygen mixture then the vapor and finally the nitrogen a little like an egg, the yellow, the white and the shell. I prefer the nitrogen far from oxygen and close to the walls because I believe it is less conductive of calories. I think there would be a complete combustion with less rejection of nitrogen oxide and possibly we would do without catalyst.

Separating the gases without devoting a lot of energy to them seems not at all obvious to me. Then after placing them as you want ... there is more than violent to achieve! And then if you manage to separate the nitrogen from the oxygen, as much not putting it back in the engine you will get a phenomenal power per liter and therefore you will be able to do a very big downsizing and without NOx.

In my case I made return the vapor as close as possible to the valve adm because the difference of t ° lprevent mixing to the air column, but then what?

Do you have a photo / diagram? There is like that, less time for the mixture of steam and air ...... but, chai not what Camel1 and André think, there are so many parameters which influence the operation that I cannot say if it is a good or an evil ...

To return to the location of the reactor and avoid disturbing the exhaust too much, it could be installed independently with a burner to obtain controlled temperature.

You must read the patent of our dear Webmunster ....

[AXEAU]

Hi,

Indeed the separation NOx and Oxygene is not within our reach but I wondered if the engine manufacturers were working in this direction at least to remove a little before entering the cylinder.

I know that there are compressors which separate them through filters, so to speak.


If we send the steam to the manifold too far from the cylinder at the start it will remain separated from the air by its difference in temperature but very quickly it will transmit its calories to the oxygen which will expand or a less good filling .The calories will also be transmitted to the collector walls and it is the size of the droplets that will get bigger. We will have modified this vapor compared to its output from the reactor. That said I do not know what kind of steam it is preferable.

Another point, if it must have an electric charge it can disappear very quickly.

For mixing it is done in the chamber under the effect of pressure and turbulances.

I made 2 photos of the collector, to send them to you very hard !!!
I still type with 1 finger but I will get there.

Good night
jlg

[camel1]

Hi everybody !

I have just updated the site, with new photos and comments:
http://reaction.directe1.free.fr/banc.htm#Maj_121009

I come back later to respond to your interventions ...

Michel