Pantone mounting PATROL 3L3TD

[Other]

Hello

I see that the masters agree

... (in my case the depresion and around 3metres) ...

and how do you measure that?

I have an instrument as found on aircraft propeller propeller has variable pitch it measures permanent depression in inches of mercury, it stands at 100kmh around 15 inches of mercury. the instrument comes from a Piper Azteck ..
Andre

[Wonder TITI]

Here is the detail of the taps:



The connections are inclined, the pipes bevelled and the faces perpendicular to the air flow.
The inlet nozzle acts as a funnel.
Return tapping from the reactor is similar to a split tube venturi like this:



I would control the Delta Pressure this WE, I found a mano diff !!!

[Wonder TITI]

... I have an instrument like we find on air propeller planes with variable pitch, it permanently measures the depression in inches of mercury, it stands at 100kmh around 15 inches of mercury. the instrument comes from a Piper Azteck ..
Andre

I have a workshop worthy of the name I think, but I dare not imagine yours !!!

[Other]

Hello

Think about it, it's a mess and it would require a great cleaning, I am sufficiently equipped to weld TIG high frequency aluminum stainless steel ect .. silver welding ect ..

If you want a vacuum between the two sockets it takes a certain restriction (like the instruments for measuring fluids in industry, we put a calibrated washer in the duct and the pressure differential gives the flow rate.

Andre

[Wonder TITI]

... If you want a vacuum between the two sockets it takes a certain restriction (like the instruments for measuring fluids in industry, we put a calibrated washer in the duct and the pressure differential gives the flow

I agree, but like I said, I don't want to decrease my power with a restriction of admission ...
Do you think my tapping will be ineffective?

[Wonder TITI]

Hello,
I did my first laps with my installation. I still replaced my level stabilizer by carburetor in the bubbler with an automatic bleed for heating outside (I did not trust with the eddies in the water, the float would surely not remain closed correctly).

First steps:
- André was right, my bubbler does not heat enough: 45 ° C in static and 32 ° in dynamic,
- the air at the reactor outlet is at 90 °,
- for information, the air after the interco is at 40 ° C maximum

I haven't felt any difference yet.

Can you give me some advice for the rest please,
and above all give me the ideal temperatures of:
- water in the bubbler?
- reactor outlet?
and also
- the Depression?

Thank you to all

[Wonder TITI]

Hello everybody

Here are some pressures in my admission:


I cannot make a graph according to the revolutions / minutes because the charge of the turbo is not proportional. So I chose as a reference the charge of the turbo.
At idle and cold, the intake turbine does not rotate, the entire intake circuit is under vacuum. When hot, the pressure at the outlet of the turbo is at 0 and the admission is at -4g
The pressure delta (or relative depression) is constant and 40g.
Is it sufficient???
(June 13 edition: 40g corresponds to 0,41m of water)

However, I do not know the through flow (passing through the bubbler / reactor circuit), but my thinnest section is 20mm2.
It must be able to calculate, if someone can do that ???


I still haven't noticed a difference without a reactor.
It's been 80km that I do with the reactor and I consume practically no water, but it's true that I don't heat enough ...

[Other]

Hello

for a reactor to work you have to have a vacuum at the outlet of the reactor in my case 0,7 meter of water either a restriction on the intake manifold or a venturi, or like Camel and Kevin direct entries in the cylinder head not feasible on a turbo)

there must be a circulation of humid gas in the reactor not just steam.

water consumption varies between 10 to 20% of the fuel consumed, provided that the reactor does not cool down too much.

The reactor becomes functional only after having operated with little water and having risen high enough in temperature. This can take time. especially on a turbo diesel which does not heat up strongly. More time with stainless steel rods and even more time with inconel rods. (Difficult to oxidize or scale as you wish)
The outlet temperature of the reactor for running-in must be clearly above 100c.
On a 100% panton small engine the running-in is done in 30 minutes the rod becomes blue, black, the outlet temperature goes up to 350 C
on water doping when it goes up 180 c it's a maximum


Andre

[Wonder TITI]

for a reactor to work, it is necessary to have a vacuum at the outlet of the reactor in my case 0,7 meter of water either a restriction on the intake manifold or a venturi

DO you think my 40g depression is insufficient?
it represents 0,41m of water.

there must be a circulation of humid gas in the reactor not just steam.

Yes I agree, the greater the depression, the greater the flow through the reactor and the better it works.

water consumption varies between 10 to 20% of the fuel consumed, provided that the reactor does not cool down too much.
The reactor becomes functional only after having operated with little water and having risen high enough in temperature. This can take time. especially on a turbo diesel which does not heat up strongly. More time with stainless steel rods and even more time with inconel rods. (Difficult to oxidize or scale as you wish)
The outlet temperature of the reactor for running-in must be clearly above 100c.
On a 100% panton small engine the running-in is done in 30 minutes the rod becomes blue, black, the outlet temperature goes up to 350 C
on water doping when it goes up 180 c it's a maximum

my rod is in stub (XC100) and the whole body is in stainless steel. The temperature of 90 ° C was measured at 50cm from the reactor outlet, I think it is above 100 ° just at the outlet.

What do you suggest to me as improvements?

And thank you for your help!

[Wonder TITI]

Hello, if my depression is insufficient, can we consider this 2nd solution?


Thank you