Opel CORSA 1.5D

[TDRA2004]

Good evening everyone.

I haven't had much time lately.

I stayed at my parents' home in Haute Garonne, 2000 km round trip.
This allowed me to test the assembly on a very wide range of road conditions.
Reliability: no problem.

ZAC:
Sorry to contradict you, but the reactor is still whole, and it has at least 5000 Kms.

I come back to the water consumption (0,3l / 100), which was very low. My water consumption at the beginning was 0,5l / 100.

I had tested an idea expressed on the forum (I no longer know who or who), which consisted of putting stainless steel scouring pad in the reactor inlet tube, with the aim of limiting hot water flows and only allowing steam to pass.

I had put this buffer in the GV outlet tube.

Before hitting the road, I removed this pad, and I made a PVC venturi that I installed between the manifold and the air filter cover.

The consos were:

4,79 out of 798 Kms, of which 650 are motorways at 110, 120
4,25 on 300 of various routes
4,79 out of 598 km, including 300 motorways at 110,120
4,96 out of 350 km, including 200 motorways at 130,140

1l / 100 water consumption

[TDRA2004]

Camel1, André, and the others of course

Consumption without Panton was greater than 6l / 100, and variable since there are 4 of us using the vehicle.

For the rod, it is threaded with a diameter of 12mm centered in a steel envelope of 14/16 via the 12/14 copper inlet / outlet tubes. The rod is brazed on the inlet tube side and free on the outlet tube side, the envelope tube is brazed on the two tubes (inlet / outlet)

The passage of gases is done at each end by an axial hole of 8,5 mm connected to 4 radial holes of 4mm opening in the annular space.

[TDRA2004]

Camel1, André, and the others of course

Consumption without Panton was greater than 6l / 100, and variable since there are 4 of us using the vehicle.

For the rod, it is threaded with a diameter of 12mm centered in a steel envelope of 14/16 via the 12/14 copper inlet / outlet tubes. The rod is brazed on the inlet tube side and free on the outlet tube side, the envelope tube is brazed on the two tubes (inlet / outlet)

Due to the construction the core is not interchangeable without destruction, so another complete set must be made.
As soon as I have a little time and my garage is closed and I have well advanced the work of the house and ...., I put.

The assembly is easy to extract from the exhaust tube

The passage of the gases is done at each end by an axial hole of 8,5 mm connected to 4 radial holes of 4mm opening in the annular space.

[Other]

Hello

4,79 out of 798 Kms, of which 650 are motorways at 110, 120
4,25 on 300 of various routes
4,79 out of 598 km, including 300 motorways at 110,120
4,96 out of 350 km, including 200 motorways at 130,140

1l / 100 water consumption

It's very good for a first assembly, it borders on 30% I stayed for a long time under 30% ..
we also note that the yield increases with the demand for power 4,96 the 130,140 normally without pants this should be much higher, we make the same observations ..
For water consumption it is in these figures that I currently run 0,9 liters per 100km but engine 3litres
The amount of water that can be passed depends mainly on the temperature of the reactor it should never be wet .. so it depends on the size of the reactor (in my case the rod is 19 mm)

For the rod filtered with the tries in a 100% panton it is unfavorable, in a doping with water I did not try
a smooth rod in a Steel or stainless steel material (lower thermal inertia)

If the reactor keeps warm you can improve the venturi to pass more product in the reactor (not just increase the water) it may be that the threaded rod will make a pressure drop, or the small axial holes of 4 mm
If you modify your assembly organize yourself to have an easily removable rod .. at least in the first assemblies ..
we always want to try something else or improve, even if you were 40% you will want to try even more !!
As you drive a lot you will learn quickly ..
Andre

[lio74]

to make the stems of restraint to keep it centered is preferable to the point of welding.

Hi everybody !

a question concerns me André:
why the centering rods is better than the welding points

It is true that it must be easier to adjust ... but if not, it is because it makes just 2 obstacles instead of 3 for the welding points !?

@+

[TDRA2004]

Good evening André

Can you tell me a little more about your 100% panton rod tests

Dimensions, annular space, constitution, etc.
Goods.

For consumption my (ambitious) goal is to reach 50% or more.

[camel1]

Hi Didier (and the others!)

Consumption without Panton was greater than 6l / 100, and variable since there are 4 of us using the vehicle.

So, if we take the measurements on 798 km and 598 km, at 4,79 l / 100, which are the ones giving the best precision when estimating consumption, with therefore 900 km of highway and 496 km of road, I find a reduction, based on the original 6l / 100 of about twenty%

I know many who would like to display such results for their first prototype!

Due to the construction the core is not interchangeable without destruction, so another complete set must be made.
As soon as I have a little time and my garage is closed and I have well advanced the work of the house and ...., I put.

Ah yes ! You too are busy!

The passage of the gases is done at each end by an axial hole of 8,5 mm connected to 4 radial holes of 4mm opening in the annular space.

I think it is a shame to create a restriction - and therefore a pressure drop - at the ends of your reactor. You would probably have better performances if he could breathe more freely ...

Finally, we will not sulk our pleasure, and yours!

When you have a little time, you can always get down to work on a new reactor ...

In the meantime, the planet thanks you for polluting less (and so do we!)

Congratulations again, and see you soon!

Michel

[Other]

Hello

Good evening André

Can you tell me a little more about your 100% panton rod tests

Dimensions, annular space, constitution, etc.
Goods.

For consumption my (ambitious) goal is to reach 50% or more.

The threaded rod that I tested was 1/2 inch in ordinary iron or 12mm (like the smooth rod 7/1 which is a standard here
the length 200 mm and more the air gap 1 mm to 0,9 mm
At that time, my test was to make a small 100% oil-fired panton work well and my criteria was comparative to the performance of the generator engine, no smoke and odor.

Instead of the rod I tried a piece of 1/2 "steel cable poor results, a bundle of wire bad results, a thin hollow tube bad results, a thick tube it gets better. I used this to take temperature measurements inside the rod.
Wire bundle never feels hot like a solid rod.

Andre

[TDRA2004]

Thank you André for all this information.
As I said above, as soon as I can I try with a rod.

Didier

[lio74]

Good evening André

Can you tell me a little more about your 100% panton rod tests

Dimensions, annular space, constitution, etc.
Goods.

For consumption my (ambitious) goal is to reach 50% or more.

Hi TDRA and the others

I do not know where and who, but compared to the non-smooth rod ... there was a drill bit test in a fixture that worked ... there was even a photo of the drill bit after test ...

but the difference and hardly palpable!

so don't waste your time with that

good do-it-yourself

@ + everyone

PS: I see that Andre did not answer for the centering of the rod ... it is that I already had the answer therefore ... centering by welding is not top