Pantone engine Citroen 2cv 6

[Flytox]

Hello Sam17

Interesting! With a fuel that vaporizes at a relatively low temperature Ok!
With oil, given the temperatures to reach it is certainly much more difficult .....

A suggestion to avoid condensate problems after machine shutdown.



Still for your setup, switching from full power with the fuel level rising in the tank, to idling with the level all the way down. I have a problem switching from one to the other. The fuel will go back, go up in the tank at constant level to balance the level, or even puke through the vent if there is one.

In slow motion, you consume very little so you will stay long with this intermediate state. At this time the proportion of gas produced does not correspond to the need of the engine while the exhaust cools.

A+

[PITMIX]

I tried the oil in the Gv of my R5 the problem is the risk of fire and the smell of fries very strong
Add to this the fouling of the whole engine and it calms direct.

[Other]

Hello

Running a car engine with a panton100% a reactor with fuel oil and a small carburettor if you're running is feasible.
but as soon as you reduce the speed (the reactor heater the engine starts auto-lit)

So little interest to operate a diesel engine or oil, just if to understand the reaction of the engine to auto ignition, at least in the country where I live we pay the gasol more expensive than gasoline
I did not even invest time to make a regulation at different speeds I simply tried to understand why with oil the engine did not self-ignite, and if it was livable on an explosion engine.

To run an explosion engine with oil, an 100% pantone and small carburetor, will walk with gasoline and a ratio of 10% to 15% maximum oil (although difficult to manage if the load decreases)

To walk a 100% explosion motor with nothing but oil
with a panton and small carburetor I have never succeeded
with an oil bubbler it works, it takes an auxiliary source to heat the oil, the exhaust gases are not enough to heat the bubbler
I would be surprised if we arrive with the electric race of the car, it takes a propane burner to heat the bubbler ..
To run a motor with oil simpler to use a diesel engine old generation.

It is for all these reasons that most of them turn to a doping with water, simpler, less counteracting on the ratio and at low speeds it simply cuts water.

Andre

[I Citro]

Hi Sam
For caravanning there are resistances to heat the coffee on the cigarette lighter socket. Look at Narbonne accessories or equivalent.

Yes, but it takes a good fifteen minutes to make coffee in summer
I took part in the 1994th ICCR in Clermont Ferrand in 10 (an unforgettable weekend on Michelin's private test tracks) and a friend had this "exceptional" gadget.

André said it and I think it too, it is vain to believe that you can heat water or oil with resistance.

[PITMIX]

Anyway I do not see the interest of using a resistance that consumes a max while with the escape it only takes a few seconds and it is free 100%.

[Chatham]

j

oulalaaaa! Not good ... if rusty floor -> chassis too!

And if chassis too, chassis dead!

And chassis deuche, nowadays, it's hard to find, and it's expensive!

Just for info: a 2cv chassis is absolutely not "hard to find" in new and galvanized, and it always costs a lot less than buying another rotten car ...
[Url] http://ami-2cv.com/category/26

[jonule]

Hello

Running a car engine with a panton100% a reactor with fuel oil and a small carburettor if you're running is feasible.
but as soon as you reduce the speed (the reactor heater the engine starts auto-lit)

So little interest to operate a diesel engine or oil, just if to understand the reaction of the engine to auto ignition, at least in the country where I live we pay the gasol more expensive than gasoline
I did not even invest time to make a regulation at different speeds I simply tried to understand why with oil the engine did not self-ignite, and if it was livable on an explosion engine.

To run an explosion engine with oil, an 100% pantone and small carburetor, will walk with gasoline and a ratio of 10% to 15% maximum oil (although difficult to manage if the load decreases)

To walk a 100% explosion motor with nothing but oil
with a panton and small carburetor I have never succeeded
with an oil bubbler it works, it takes an auxiliary source to heat the oil, the exhaust gases are not enough to heat the bubbler
I would be surprised if we arrive with the electric race of the car, it takes a propane burner to heat the bubbler ..
To run a motor with oil simpler to use a diesel engine old generation.

It is for all these reasons that most of them turn to a doping with water, simpler, less counteracting on the ratio and at low speeds it simply cuts water.

Andre

hello andré;

I understand your last sentence, but my friend rolls in 2cv.

for auto-ignition I comrpends the problem: if you do not want more oil vapor while driving, it always happens to power the engine, ok:
a valve would be needed to prevent the oil vapor from passing through the diesel air duct supply but "returning" to the bubbler or tank via a condensate?

I thought I saw your little engine on pantone wiki, saying that once switched on, you can remove the fuel tank to put an oil tank?
so the oil is only a step later?
no, you say that the muffler is not enough to evaporate the oil?

there I find it amazing ... the bubbler has too much oil? it would take a smaller secondary tank (like the one you use to run the oil already on your 300TD is not it?) so that the heating is done + quickly?
and a cooler (coil in the open air) to cool the condensate to the tank ...

why not this technique?

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if yes, an injection pump works better than all these systems is obvious ...

see some sort of compressor / injector on belt?

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I think I've recovered in breakage a kind of injector driven by solenoid valve, which is connected to the air intake pipe, I do not know if the engine is gasoline or diesel?
it remains that it is necessary a sacred pump all the same ... with gear like that of the motor oil?

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it's tempting at a stroke ... a tank heated by the coolant, a small bubbler heated by exhaust gas, a solid gear pump, then the solenoid valve (for injection or not) that overlooks the injector, which is in the air intake!
hoping that it makes a cloud rather than a drop in the intake, it is necessary to finish the system as any injection system, a surplus injection return or when the solenoid valve is not used, for pressure of the feed pump ...

what do you think?

I'll take a picture of the thing!

I think it can also work with water? allo?

[denis]

I thought I was hanging out with my deuch, actually 90 I'm really 110 (view gps), but for the gain it does not change the saving percentage, because it must consume less than 10l / 100 that I preach

[PITMIX]

Ooh there is a real trap to allow your deuche.
In principle it is the inverse 110 counter and 100 GPS.

[Chatham]

In principle, a 2cv6 in good condition and well adjusted peaks at 115km / h chrono on flat and without wind and consumes at this speed 8L / 100 (in the auto-log at the time they found 109km / h and 7.7L / 100, but their 2cv which was only 3000km was not yet "released") ...
And "only" 5.8L at 90, which shows that in 2cv the slightest gain in speed is very expensive (poor aerodynamics) and the slightest loss of power is immediately noticeable given the low power of 29hp and despite an empty weight of 590kg ...