Moto 1000 VOXAN doping steam

[Other]

Hello

André I did not find Charcol (?) And the thermometer Maverick especially at this price, here it is often 20, 30, 40 € display meat thermometers.

Even with the English terms I make mistakes ...
(Charcoal) charcoal grill to cook outside

For output temperatures for a gasoline engine it does not go up much 96?
How to explain that almost 100c steam coming out of the GV peddled with air passing through a narrow duct highly heated and so little temperature?
Today small output of 25 km cold temperature output 19c
so the thermometer is relatively good it is the outside temperature after 6km has 70kmh then 2 has 100kmh that raised to 210c, for some time the temperature has increased drastically in my sytéme? , soon long journeys in perspective so good tests

Andre

[MichelM]

Hello André

OK, here these thermometers are quite expensive. The only economical is the IKEA 7,5 € but limited to 130 ° C.
I still do not measure the temperature of the water vapor but 96 ° C it seems little? On the bike the water continues to boil for several minutes after stopping the engine so there does not seem to be any problem of lack of heat. Perhaps with the reactor the sudden relaxation of steam after the core (the central rod) makes the temperature go down, but on my Mercedes 300TD if there is depression (and not too much water) the temperature remains towards the 130 ° C at the reactor outlet.

Measurement of engine oil temperature this morning (T exter 18 ° C):
poorer correction (U lambda often under 0,1V) without water

0 km: 18 ° C
10 km: 75 ° C approximately
20 km: 90 ° C
23 km: 91 ° C

The conditions were a little different (more traffic, initial temperature + 2 ° C), finally in poor mixture I + 4 ° C to 20km.

Michel

[MichelM]

Bonjour à tous

Modification of the steam circuit.
Tests Sunday with circuit connected under the throttles, so strong suction. The circuit has no venting: the mini-water pump gives in 2 meters of copper pipe (4 / 6 mm) wound and tightened on the exhaust, then pipe to nozzle approximately 0,8mm (to limit suction and passage of air and steam), mini 1 / 4 tower valve, 1 in 2 (Y) to go to 2 engine intake ducts. I test by sucking (to the mouth!) No leak or unintentional air intake. I think that having no air intake I will not disrupt idling and low revs.
Well no, despite my precautions the idle is very unstable, low diets too, if I inject the water is not better or worse, probably water suction. I dismounted everything and went back to the first assembly (steam coming over the butterflies so low depression). On the site of Better Gas Mileage it closes the water vapor circuit at idle with a solenoid valve it is also a solution but my steam circuit will rise in pressure without venting.
With a motorcycle and therefore a relatively low engine displacement this air (steam) under the throttle disturbs too much operation.

The steam generator with 2 copper wound tube meters does not work well despite the high heat, despite the small amount of water injected, despite clamps all along, it's not good, Andre is right !
I'm thinking of changing that and I'm looking at the steam engine boilers and the other fixtures that are here: you need a bit of volume and baffles or other felts and so on. to avoid having splashes of hot water with the steam. We will have to find some space to make a horizontal mini boiler around the exhaust tube ...

Michel

[Other]

Hello

The buleur has long been the simple way .. but it has its share of inconvenience

A small boiling place in the heat source you supply it with water is placed in the air by a small hole, you suck the humid air at the top of this boil, you enter under the butterfly by a minucule hole 1,6mm or less according to the cylinder capacity, it does not affect much the march.
If the engine is slowed down it means that it has too much steam, a gasoline engine is limited to the amount of steam it can swallow (the same as the ERG valve idle it is off)

Serpentine, or bubbler, it brews too much liquid, it ended up entering liquid in the reactor, is no gain, even a loss of yield, it takes km to reactivate the sytéme ..
the exhaust valves do not like a liquid entry into the engine (thermal shock).

Andre

[MichelM]

Hello André

1,6mm is actually too much for the bike (1 000cc), I had only 0,8mm and even without water circuit closed it did not work well. Yet I thought that the circuit being well closed and without water (or very little) I would not have disturbances and well no I do not know where, or how, but the mixture was completely disturbed.
I had thought of closing the 2 air screws (bypass throttles) that serve to adjust the idle wealth (and the CO2 CO), but I did not have enough adjustment to compensate. The engine is too sensitive to the slightest air intake.

Michel

[Other]

Boujour
Ideally this would completely shut down the reactor output at idle, especially with a carburetor.

Andre

[Flytox]

Hello MichelM

... On the site of Better Gas Mileage it closes the water vapor circuit at idle with an electro-valve is also a solution but my steam circuit will go up in pressure without venting.
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You can try a 3-way valve, one position you feed the intake pipes, the other position you release the steam outside the engine. The coil no longer increases in pressure and is "immediately" effective when you reconnect to the intake. The command can be done easily by detecting the slowdown with a switch for example. I had made a montage like this at the start of my tests.
A+

[MichelM]

Bonjour à tous

Where do you find easily small solenoid valves or valves 3 channels? I also have to find solder (flux and stripper) for stainless steel to make the steam generator, the last time I tried it was not a success!

Michel

[MichelM]

There are steam solenoid valves but they are in 220V ~, I do not know if it is possible to wind in 12V as the pump or if it is possible to run them in continuous 12V instead of the alternative 220V , the 12V was too weak to operate the mini pump.
Link :
Steam machine solenoid valves

Michel

[Other]

Hello

The solenoid valves of the old Mercedes Those on the vaccum, there are several all plastic it resits well to steam and hot water .. 12volts there is also on the automatic transmission
a 110volts AC plugged into the 12 volts DC with a resitance it works too ..


Andre