Efficiency ecopra kit?

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by Flytox » 22/05/13, 21:43

To counteract the tendency to flatten, you can completely fill the pipe with fine sand and solidly plug the ends (solder). From now on the well-heated pipe should accept the slightly hard bending radii without putting on like a sock. : Mrgreen:

Full of 90 ° elbows, it's not great for flow, possible leaks etc ... :|
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by pauline82 » 22/05/13, 22:04

If the welds are good there is no reason for a leak ?? !!
The bender being crappy I brought it back. So I have no choice. I'm going to put my elbows and soda. I'll take a photo tomorrow and tell me what you think. Knowing that this coil will go into a small bubbler 15 * 10 and 20 high.
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by Flytox » 22/05/13, 23:04

Flytox wrote:To counteract the tendency to flatten, you can completely fill the pipe with fine sand and solidly plug the ends (solder). From now on the well-heated pipe should accept the slightly hard bending radii without putting on like a sock. : Mrgreen:

Full of 90 ° elbows, it's not great for flow, possible leaks etc ... :|


When you use a pipe full of sand, you can do without a bender. For example with a rape (rat tail) you make a hollow shape about the diameter of your pipe on the circumference of a circular piece of wood. The pipe will agree to twist on the shape.
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by pauline82 » 24/05/13, 17:25

The pipes are welded I have only replaced the plastic canister that I drilled badly and the bubbler will be almost ready.
The turbo is resisting.
For its repair I must remove the exhaust line. Having a second bubbler I hesitate to put it closer to the turbo to shorten the length of hose and use the one already in place to heat the air entering the bubbler. What do you think??
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by Flytox » 24/05/13, 22:09

pauline82 wrote: Having a second bubbler I hesitate to put it closer to the turbo to shorten the length of hose and use the one already in place to heat the air entering the bubbler. What do you think??


Not sure if it is useful to heat the air entering the bubbler. If done right, the outlet will come out at the same temperature with virtually no preheating. Made with short pipes ........... as long as possible : Mrgreen:
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by pauline82 » 26/05/13, 20:45

Thank you Flytox for all your answers :D
I decided to reassemble the bubbler closer to the turbo outlet. This will considerably reduce the length of the duty.

I'm going to put the bubbler in the engine compartment. Suddenly my bubbler will be at the same level as my expansion tank and thus higher than the cylinder head outlet. This can be a problem ???
The simplest for me would be to prick myself on the hose going to the heating (which is hardly higher than the bubbler) because I would have little hose to add, but suddenly would I have less heating?

And last question, I soldered my copper coil from the bubbler to tin. The 90 ° can they melt my welds ????
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by Flytox » 26/05/13, 23:02

pauline82 wrote:I'm going to put the bubbler in the engine compartment. Suddenly my bubbler will be at the same level as my expansion tank and thus higher than the cylinder head outlet. This can be a problem ???

If the LDR circulation is intense enough, the degassing bubbles should be eliminated as time goes by. The ideal would be to put a purge on top of this new high point.

The simplest for me would be to prick myself on the hose going to the heating (which is hardly higher than the bubbler) because I would have little hose to add, but suddenly would I have less heating?


Certainly less heating, more enough ???

And last question, I soldered my copper coil from the bubbler to tin. The 90 ° can they melt my welds ????


Melt no, for fusion, depending on the "tin" you used, it's 180 ° the old ones or 217 ° the new ones, on the other hand weakened around 100 ° Yes. Not too much experience of this type of solder for hot liquid, when it has to be really solid, it is necessary to take "copper" solder with Phosphorus or even better with Silver.
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by pauline82 » 28/05/13, 21:54

Some news. Still no turbo : Evil:
I moved the reactor. I will save 60 cm of hose : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
The reactor is now 50cm from the exhaust manifold. I can't do better :D :D
I filled my coil with LDR and put it in a pan of water which I boiled for half an hour. Nothing has changed. I will watch over time.
In the bubbler I will pass a stainless steel hose that I will drill for bubbling. Better to favor lots of tiny holes than big holes, nah ????
Continuation after reassembly of the turbo :|
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by Flytox » 28/05/13, 23:11

pauline82 wrote:In the bubbler I will pass a stainless steel hose that I will drill for bubbling. Better to favor lots of tiny holes than big holes, nah ????


Indeed, on my assembly it seems to work better with many small holes (multiplication of the number of bubbles)
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by pauline82 » 29/05/13, 19:39

please :D
With your system you well ????
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