Pantone modification for Renault Laguna 2.0l petrol

[nlc]

Take a picture of the prototype for those who want to see what it looks like:

[muzo_31]

Pit
Our stuff is not that complex. It's like everything: when you are in the bath, that you "feel" what is going on, it seems common, accessible, you know which end to take it.
On our side, what attributes do you think we give to your refrigeration systems or the guy puts a piece of pipe in addition and it changes all temperatures? for us, it seems as complex, while for you, it is common ...

If you find montages that interest you in a kit, like what nlc is talking about, tell me, I will see how to mount them for you.

nlc,
I sent an MP. the word Asic was used in the generic sense: an asic is an integrated circuit which essentially integrates digital modules.

[PITMIX]

Yes muzo I understood that well. Thank you for the service if one day I need I will think about asking you.

[nlc]

Well I got my quick optos and I mounted the assembly in the car.
For the moment I have only connected the injector, I have not connected the speed sensor.

For now the program shows me the min max and current values ​​of the injector opening time. Unfortunately I cannot modify it today I do not have my pc with port // to program the PIC at hand

The maximum opening time that I could measure is 25.17ms, being at very low speed and opening the throttle fully. And at idle, once the engine is warm, the opening time is 3.6 ms, and remains very stable.

I drove with the car at 70-80km / h, the on-board computer gives me a consumption of about 6L / 100, and the opening time of the injector is around 6.6ms.

I will try to make a more precise reading, well stabilized on seeing fast at 100km / h, and note the rpm and the opening time of the injector.

[jcf]

Not the simplest is indeed a small box with a small display which is transplanted on the command of an injector, and on the speed sensor, which is generally found at the outlet of the box.

Then by software you can display a lot of information: speed, engine speed, distance traveled, amount of fuel consumed, average consumption per 100km, real time consumption.

On the other hand it would only work on vehicles managed by electronic calculator.
The electronic assembly in itself is really not complicated, there are just 2 signals to interface and inject into a microcontroller, a few buttons and a small LCD screen 2 lines of 16 characters for example.

I will try to think about this question this week. If it can make life easier for experimenters, why not.

Wow ! Nlc, you are the messiah I dreamed of!
It's been a while since I haven't read any info on the pantone (well 2 years) because life is too fast, but I always intend to pantonize my VW multivan 2,1L petrol injection.
So the assembly that you propose would indeed be top to quickly measure the improvements brought by each modification of the pantone, and to compare our different assemblies!
I just have a small remark on your on-board computer, it lacks an info, the water consumption!

On the other hand for the pantonization of the injection, I did not imagine proceeding with a bubbler.
In fact, I find that the advantage of injection is that normally it injects in a quantity proportional to the speed and the load of the engine.
So, what I wanted to do was use an injector at the PMC entrance instead of the bubbler. Injector which would have been controlled by an electronic module replicating the frequency of the signal given to the main injectors, but which would have made it possible to modify the duration, in order to be able to modify the percentage water / petrol injected (and thanks to your on-board computer, reading the effectiveness of the adjustment!).
Do you think that such an electronic module is easy to create (I'm bad at it, that's what bothers me ...).
I intended to put together a more precise and detailed specification, but then reading your post annoyed me!
A+
Jean-Christophe

[nlc]

Well, the editing I did, but for the sole purpose of measuring fuel consumption in real time, so that people using pantone can quickly see if it changes anything.

The card must be lying somewhere in the office, but I never started the software ...
Other occupations have taken over, in particular because of the fact that I hardly take the car anymore ...

[jcf]

Well, the editing I did, but for the sole purpose of measuring fuel consumption in real time, so that people using pantone can quickly see if it changes anything.

It's already great, huh, for the history of water consumption I was kidding!
As for driving a supernumerary injector on the basis of the signal from an original injector, I found a solution (you also proposed an assembly also) a little later by reading the post on the Corsa .

The card must be lying somewhere in the office, but I never started the software ...
Other occupations have taken over, in particular because of the fact that I hardly take the car anymore ...

Ah no, that’s wrong!
If all the guys who develop hi-tech tricks to improve the understanding of Pantone (I think of Guidi, you) stop right in the middle, it's horror!
You can not know my frustration at having reached the end of the post of Corsa with for conclusion: post. No analysis on the important variables of the pantone, on the variation of the consumptions etc. ! Awful ...
Okay, so you understood, if you could finalize this montage, I think it would still be useful for the Pantonizing community (at least for me)!
See you soon,
Jean-Christophe
PS: if you know a way to intelligently familiarize yourself with electronics, gradually understand how it works and then create my own montages, I am interested, I am extremely frustrated at being unable to do anything in electronics ( if, nevertheless, a weld, and again ...).

[nlc]

You should read the post on the R5, that of pitmix
You will be reading for a while;)

The big concern that I have, and I don't think I am the only one, is that I can only fully invest in something if it is my passion of the moment.

In this case I have for some time put aside hydrogen and pantone, because I am now in my "electric" phase. That's what fascinates me at the moment so it's impossible for me to do anything else!

When I get tired of it maybe the fad of the pantone or the hydrogen will come back, in which case I will do it all over again. But no one knows if it will happen and when it will happen, not even me!

[nlc]

For electronics, the simplest is to search the net, there is really everything you need!