Mounting pantone 4x4 toyota turbo LJ73 2.4L

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by Flytox » 25/02/14, 20:29

An idea © e, one might use a pump to push electric à © (or vacuum) of the air bubbler is contrÃ'lerait easier the start © bit?


You give us a diagram ... there are 36 ways to do ... :P
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by nikko » 26/02/14, 05:34

A "nozzle" is any restriction of the passage


I have a gullet in place I made three different size to see in a while the result.

I do a lot of little 10 20km trip I wonder if I should not install a GV for the system to be operational when you say?

For the temperature must I order a probe in 12v I have none in my archives.

An idea © e, one might use a pump to push electric à © (or vacuum) of the air bubbler is contrÃ'lerait easier the start © bit?


That would mean that it should be what function with the accelerator it will not be simple.
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by dede2002 » 26/02/14, 08:36

Effectively...

A priori the venturi system seems simple and effective!

I'm just looking for ideas to be able to control the flow of additional air and water spray in all operating conditions.

for example a solenoid valve to close the passage during deceleration. Maybe the high water consumption is linked to it, because in engine braking the venturi sucks as much as at full load for the same regime?

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by nikko » 26/02/14, 18:34

I'm not sure I take the case of a gasoline fuel when you hit the acceleration the butterfly "or bushels on mopeds" closes because it is the gasoline air mixture that gives good combustion. After with an injection I don't know how it works.


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by Flytox » 26/02/14, 19:36

nikko wrote:I do a lot of little 10 20km trip I wonder if I should not install a GV for the system to be operational when you say?


We are a number to have this concern that the system is not really operational until a certain number of km (12 -20 km?) : Cry: For short trips it's not terrible .... As I said above, maybe because the reactor is bathed in condensation at start-up and the rod has trouble drying. The GVI heats up much faster ... but I did not notice a clear start of the system faster ..... So that it heats up "faster" (that's saying a lot : Mrgreen: ), I had made an assembly which worked without water but with passage of air in the reactor for the first km. After about 5 km I put on the water and the steam temperature actually climbed a little faster towards the "usual" temperature zone. Could not illustrate a better in the conso with this systus ...: Mrgreen: .
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by Flytox » 26/02/14, 20:06

dede2002 wrote: Perhaps the high consumption of water is linked to it, because in engine braking the venturi sucks as much at full charge for the same regime?

When the engine and therefore the turbo is fully loaded, it turns to donf and sucks a max on one side and compresses a max of the other. As soon as you cut the throttle, there is not much to drive the turbo side exhaust, the turbo system collapses (the intake part absorbs a lot of power so slow down a lot). In a few 1 / 10 seconds the airflow resembles that of an atmospheric engine. In this transitional period, the admission returns to depression and may aspire what it should not ...... the water of the bubbler for example. If this is the case, we must immediately put the anti-return mentioned above. : Cry:
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by dede2002 » 27/02/14, 08:52

Oops I forgot the turbo, I reasoned about an atmospheric diesel.

Nevertheless, there is a large air flow and no diesel fuel injection deceleration.
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by dede2002 » 27/02/14, 11:21

Flytox wrote:
An idea © e, one might use a pump to push electric à © (or vacuum) of the air bubbler is contrÃ'lerait easier the start © bit?


You give us a diagram ... there are 36 ways to do ... :P


I found this nice diagram on the forum, and this is my first try by opening an image in dia ...
It was Nikko who gave me the idea of ​​the accelerator, I saw that others on the forum have already tried with a small motorbike carbide.

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by nikko » 27/02/14, 20:44

it will not be easy to do, but it is rather a good I will study the subject because on my 4x4 I have a wind tunnel effect that will worm the reactor in this case it would prevent the steam leaves in the buller ..
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by Flytox » 27/02/14, 21:34

On this nice diagram : Mrgreen: , I don't really see the point of the throttle or throttle valve on the engine outlet. The depression, not always sufficient for the engine, is "always" beneficial and follows with the engine speed. It would be better to put this shutter on the bubbler inlet. This would "control" the depression in the reactor and its gas flow.

On the other diagram which uses the pressurization of the turbo to bring the air to the bubbler, this “accelerator” could work instead of the anti-return.


It would also be possible to install a calibrated valve that would send air only when the pressure after turbo is greater than the bubbler pressure, of the type:

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