SNCF: water doping diesel locomotives

[Other]

Hello

Large slow diesel engine locomotive boats often have an energy efficiency higher than small car diesel
we must not look at the total consumption we must look at the overall yield
it is possible that a doping with water on these diesels direct injection has great output which one does not arrive at spectacular figures
This requires testing and testing
This requires knowing the current consumption of the engine versus developing energy

Water doping is assumed to bring motor engines that have a mixed cycle closer to a diesel cycle

Only a test on a machine can confirm it

Andre

[Flytox]

Hello André, the performance on a large engine can be improved with water ... in the long term, avoiding maintenance and staying longer at its optimum consumption.

https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... VG0pDt.pdf

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[copra]

to see the video with a standard ecopra kit
without exaggeration the visual was ...... obvious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF5-Ti4EufU

to see youtube econology or ecopra

[Christophe]

to see the video with a standard ecopra kit
without exaggeration the visual was ...... obvious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF5-Ti4EufU

to see youtube econology or ecopra

Here is what will put the points on the I ...

I would only say or rather do one thing:

[pb2488]

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[Other]

Hello

Andre wrote

I offer you a test and you will make the measurements.
We fill the tank with the plug, we are going to make a trip of 3 to 4 hours on the highway with the cruse control at 100 km / h then we fill up with the plug, you take out your calculator and you calculate.
the internal explanations of the engine you will seek them and you will formulate them ...
explanations on construction, materials, dimensions, operating temperature, I can answer ..

We can repeat the same trip at 120kmh and you will be even more surprised .. you will explain to me why?
If you take the manufacturer's figures at 120kmh 300D series 123
for your economy calculation base, we are going to come up with big numbers.

PB2487 wrote

No need to do this kind of test, it has no value. A test at 100km / h in steady state does not demonstrate anything. In such a condition, the engine of a car develops only about 25 CV to advance once launch. If the engine is flanged by the GP system and therefore, the maximum power decreased, the average consumption decreases.
At 100km / h on roughly flat roads, my 110hp HDI consumes less than 4 liters / 100. If I clamped it down to 90hp for example, it would do the same but on average consumption would drop.
A much more comprehensive test bench or test is needed to validate performance.

Here is his answer on his forum
at the invitation I made to her .. from there we understood everything ..

We do not know how to measure, we calculate everything wrong, we are small handymen, but we drive
the manufacturer when he announces figures how did he do it ??

So no need to continue the convesation with this gentleman

I think I recognize a certain expression of forumeur who was emptied of other forum and I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same. An artist in the change of nickname and IP and when you find out he threatens to sue you.

It will not help anyone on a forum just follow him elsewhere to see the subjects he addresses
whether it is house, electric, mechanical, nothing apart from the criticism of the characters.
He even blamed me for giving advice on a system that I could not explain how it worked.



Never an answer to a question, like a politician.
what do we care about the integrity of Panton on a Giller system? which is different from a Panton system, The next target will be Giller the cultivator, or David who has generously written all the basics of the system.

Freedom of expression has its place but there are limits.
when you write in a suptile way that you are a liar and when the time comes to verify, he lays down an answer as above ??

Andre

[Cuicui]

it might save them the same setbacks as this old Paul P

What are you talking about ? Paul Pantone has never doped water.

[delnoram]

What are you talking about ? Paul Pantone has never doped water.

Well yes CuiCui, maintaining the parallel maintains the confusion between the 2 processes.

However, it is possible that the Pantone family could follow in the footsteps of Mr Gillier and David.
See http://quanthomme.free.fr/qhsuite/Nouv240809.htm

[pb2488]

Ecopra was inspired by the pantone assembly and sells it:
http://fr.ecopra.com/index.php?/Kit-Ecopra
Cdlt

[Alain G]

pb2488

Well, you just offend everyone, but you never want to.

Do your own tests and stop disturbing it forum, it works but you don't want to or can't do your own tests.

Now!

We have known for moons that you do not believe it, so please disappear and leave the grown-ups who have experienced it with their beliefs which according to you the great skeptic have not done their jobs well.

Fire yourself before someone else does it for you, we're all blazed by your bottomless comments that only go one way, YOURS!!!!

Sorry to all, but it begins to break them royally!