serious research on the pantone

[PITMIX]

(I tell you that I'm not expecting anything from this forum)

That's the sentence that kills!

[pluesy]

if professionals have the last gear screaming is that its professionals and gear are financed by someone and if someone has bet of the tune is that he hopes spinning effects and hard cash ...

the question I ask myself is what status will the "pantone specialist" person have who will integrate the team: employee, researcher, volunteer engineer, project manager ect ...

and if this fruitful association leads to something effective and concrete who will benefit the crime ..?

to the pantone community or whoever funded the project?

I think that each of the protagonists must know where he puts his feet

is it the pros who put themselves at the service of the pantonists or do the pantonists put themselves at the service of the pros ....

that is the question !!!

[nonoLeRobot]

Well I don't know who these "professionals" are but sometimes I have trouble understanding, we spend our time reading that nobody is interested in the Pantone, that we need real solid tests with a bench and all. It seems that it is possible and everyone finds excuses. What do you need ??? Are you afraid of losing recognition, money, of no longer having the right to yell at all the professionals, or no longer being able to say it's the oilmen's fault ??? ...

[Other]

Hello
contact kevin he has a test bench and several montages that works.
Professional in what? all the time that one dictates on the forum the assembly should be done, and in operation. A handyman who is slightly equipped does this in 2 days, with all the details that we find on the forums it doesn't have to be difficult.
It seems to me already read last year that you had built an assembly on an engine 2cv with two reactor I'm not sure it's on this forum ? there was no question of running a small train? Roll up your sleeves and build or have it done by a local welder, he adjusts a few pipes and a rod,

Andre

[pluesy]

Well I don't know who these "professionals" are but sometimes I have trouble understanding, we spend our time reading that nobody is interested in the Pantone, that we need real solid tests with a bench and all. It seems that it is possible and everyone finds excuses. What do you need ??? Are you afraid of losing recognition, money, of no longer having the right to yell at all the professionals, or no longer being able to say it's the oilmen's fault ??? ...

life has taught me to be wary of those who promise the moon ... I have sometimes devoted myself wholeheartedly to a cause or a person, and then made me a thank you. ..

the purpose of forums it is to learn and disseminate the information if someone forum integrates a research team I'm just wondering if he can disseminate the results of research on the net

if it's an association like "roll my flower" I think there is no problem the purpose of the association is clear and clean

if it is a team of engine engineers responsible for the preparation of 206 engines for rallies that have a soul ecolo and are ready to lend their labs when they do not use it why not ...
but generally mistrust if stuff is discovered in a lab it does not come out of the lab as long as there is no patents patent and commercial outlet ...

I think we must not believe in Santa Claus and know where we put the feet that's all

if a patented commercial kit comes out as a result of fruitful research it would be great and everyone can equip their old cars at a lower cost and I think that at this stage the pantone would have more impact on the environment than "under the coat "or on forums where a limited number of people are able at the same time to build it, to understand it, to make it work well and to disseminate the information

so the only good question to ask is what is the future of the pantone and best in the private or on the forums

I think it has its place in both systems but do not see if the public (the forums) easily sends information to the private sector it is difficult to send information to the public (usually private communication ----> public is called advertising )

[Christophe]

I do not try to hire someone. I propose to someone to do a project, it's different!
If anyone is interested, some research on the pantone could take place, otherwise nothing for now ... it's up to you to see ....

Any project must have a frame and a status ... What do you propose? When I asked you details in private ... no answer ... Frankly ... give me the contact of a serious interlocutor and we rediscture.

But please, we do not reject the responsibility if serious research is not done because in this case you would take, as I told you private, the engine and builders laboratories for cons ...

I feel that, in 5 years, we have largely proved that there are some interesting things to do ... The ball is in THEIR camps by our ...

[Christophe]

the question I ask myself is what status will the "pantone specialist" person have who will integrate the team: employee, researcher, volunteer engineer, project manager ect ...

proposition 3 ... we bet?

is it the pros who put themselves at the service of the pantonists or do the pantonists put themselves at the service of the pros ....

that is the question !!!

+1

[Christophe]

life has taught me to be wary of those who promise the moon ... I have sometimes devoted myself wholeheartedly to a cause or a person, and then made me a thank you. ..

+1 and that's why this "proposal" I trust because I already had too many "proposals" like this one with never anything behind ... PoPaul could be anyone ... too easy ...

the purpose of forums it is to learn and disseminate the information if someone forum integrates a research team I'm just wondering if he can disseminate the results of research on the net

Obviously not ... that's why they DON'T NEED "funny" people like us ...

if a patented commercial kit comes out as a result of fruitful research it would be great and everyone can equip their old cars at a lower cost and I think that at this stage the pantone would have more impact on the environment than "under the coat "or on forums where a limited number of people are able at the same time to build it, to understand it, to make it work well and to disseminate the information

Again for that they just have to search the forum and start their own research and proto ... I really do not see what we could make them save 1 or 2 design week and legal bugs ... for the reasons you mentioned above ..

[PITMIX]

It's true that Kevin seems best placed to do this battery of tests ... Where is he ??
He was looking for people to give him cars to test. There the proposal seems to stick with his ambition.
He makes reactors, puts the subject and in addition he has a strong character. He will not let himself be ...
What does he think ???
Anyway, nobody invented anything on this forumso I do not see what to fear.
The only thing is that if someone is committed to the reactor and the tests are conclusive it is normal that the handyman in question is not forgotten.
Otherwise in the case of a total benevola admits popaul it would be easier for us to test our own vehicle than to redo a montage.

[Christophe]

The pb is that the concept is not really patentable because widely distributed on the net (so public domain) ... and it is surely one of the reasons that the industry is not really interested ...