Doping an internal combustion engine with water vapor

[philistine]

"You could make a prototype, we'll follow that with a lot of interest."

I should at least have a beginning of reason to believe that it has an embryo of chance to be useful for something.

"Some like Renault, have not only tested, they have also applied for a number of patents, in case ... the tide turns?"

Not this kind of argument which is likely to bring me the beginning of the beginning of ... Well, what wind Renault would wait to cut croupiers to its competitors if it had something in its boxes that worked ?! Especially at a time when all countries are racing to the last drop of oil.

If there are lots of fields where a brilliant inventor can make a good colossal for a technology, it is obviously not that of a sector as mature as that of the automobile. And even if, all the builders would fight to recruit the said genius.

[Flytox]

"You could make a prototype, we'll follow that with a lot of interest."

I should at least have a beginning of reason to believe that it has an embryo of chance to be useful for something.

?????? It was your idea to do this "electric".

"Some like Renault, have not only tested, they have also applied for a number of patents, in case ... the tide turns?"

Not this kind of argument which is likely to bring me the beginning of the beginning of ... Well, what wind Renault would wait to cut croupiers to its competitors if it had something in its boxes that worked ?!

At the price of filing patents, in this shop where they have never skimped on small savings, is that they want to protect something .... they who have tried.

Especially at a time when all countries are racing to the last drop of oil.

Countries yes, car manufacturers no. For decades, our automakers have known how to make truly economical cars (around 2 to 2.5 liters / 100 km), but if they don't get them out / especially don't want to promote them, is that it is contrary to their marketing (want to stuff us the most expensive possible stuff stuffed with technologies as loud and useless and that the car remains a consumable toy).

If there are lots of areas where a brilliant inventor can make a technology colossal good, it is obviously not that of a sector as mature as that of the automobile.

Indeed, there is no greater progress to be expected from this already mature technology. The colossal good would be to make the car a "minimalist" economy utility which would allow a drastic reduction in fuel consumption and pollution.

[Flytox]

After years of testing (Since 2007 ), and results that have long plateaued in the 10 to 12% fuel economy, chui in the process of moving to another way of seeing the problem (different prototype).

Of all the theories which have been proposed to explain the improvement in yield with the Gillier Pantone, the one which seems to me the most relevant is that of the electrification of the water vapor droplets obtained at the level of the reactor rod.

If this electrification is sufficient in itself to improve the yield, it can be obtained in a way that can be much more effective with other systems. Armstrong's machine is an example.



Chui therefore miniaturizing this machine using the exhaust of the car as a boiler.



In the diagram above, there is no "comb" in the steam jet to recover the high voltage. The charged droplets will return to the mass a little further in the intake manifold, cylinder head, intake valve, cylinder ...!?).

What fraction of the charged particles will be able to reach the cylinders?

What is the lifespan of these charged particles?

Do we have to electrically isolate “all” the intake circuit?

Do you see a tip that can be used to prevent these charged water droplets from spreading over the mass as quickly as possible?

Will the car charge electrically and give a big chestnut when you touch it or when you get out of it?

If everything goes as planned , the boiler should operate (with a ladle) between 4 and 6 Bar, the water should boil between 145 and 160 ° C and the condensation chamber should be able to condense between 120 and 150 ° C.

[Flytox]

There must be some forumeur who have good knowledge in "electrostatics" etc ... to give some ideas / suggestions / constructive criticisms etc ... to help me move the thing forward

In the possible variants of the system, we can put a comb to recover the high voltage in the jet of electrified steam and use it to do an electrolysis (in a separate electrolyser or directly in the boiler? (Efficiency ????? The hydrogen and oxygen produced would leave with the vapor in the intake duct.

[Flytox]

Construction of the first parts with the all stainless steel boiler:



The 48.3 mm diameter pipe, which is the heating part, is sandblasted to push the Leidenfrost temperature a little more (avoid heat build-up).

The weld (TIG) will come only next week the best....

[Flytox]

The boiler is almost finished ...






The dimensions will be able to be defined to make and fit the condensation chamber. Given the limited space between the apron, the motor and all the pipes in the area ..... it will be hot





.... especially as in the photos, it misses the 60 mm diameter intake hose which passes in the middle of the dish of spaguetti

[Flytox]

The intake manifold is finished, with its interior paint (supposed to resist 200 ° C)





Paint without a brush or a spray gun in a tarabiscotée form ..... = guaranteed drips, finally considering the surface condition of the original it is still smoother than before.

Boiler inlet piping. The check valve is in the pipe.




For the boiler outlet pipe, this must be stainless, flexible, withstand 6 bar and 200 ° C. The stainless steel ringed pipes (often used in solar installations) must do the trick but no way to find them in detail (the mini order is like 15 m at 170 € when it is not reserved for professionals. ..)
If someone has an address ?????????????

[Flytox]

At the top, the adjustable valve circuit. Below the "chamber" of condensation (a pipe in fact). On top is the LDR circuit. It is in several pieces connected by hoses (not present in the photo) to be able to change (double) the temperature exchange surface if the need arises.





The inlet hose which will receive the "electrified vapor" at the level of the white part.
Why all these necklaces ??? Because this intake hose tears in the long run on these R19s at the level of an "accordion". Of compensation of length ... and that one does not find any more in good condition with the breakage .... So with 3 recut hoses, a little PVC and clamps, there is still something to extend over and over again.
In fact, it will take a minimum of 4 additional collars to finalize this hose.

[Flytox]

The production continues, with the nozzle which will spit the steam into the intake manifold.
The small boxwood cylinder is made from a salvage from a chess pawn. . It is drilled to 1 mm in diameter ....





It's not finalized, you have to put a layer of electrical insulation on top ... not yet defined

[Flytox]

At first, I will try to spit the steam as above ....... If the aerodynamic turbulence of this intake duct brings too many electrical charges against the ball I will do an electrical insulation and try to guide the air streams so that they cannot go back. With something like an "Eifel body" that covers the vapor diffuser.