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Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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by scavenger » 14/09/05, 02:21

:P thank you econology for everything you do :)

your convolutions and those of all the others occupy my evenings since 2 weeks ago already :) at work I do not bead anymore than ca lol :)

BUT however I do not see any trace of successful tests on gasoline cars ....... is it because it does not work?

it has the AIR run on diesel, although the production time is low and does not allow to demonstrate an internal oxidation engines used (inconsistency or humbug?), so I would like to test this live on my R5 gasoline which works for the moment very well, and she has that 60 000 km so I do not want to shoot anything for nothing, so uh, how do I find people who have already tested it with success or who are in it on the Paris region ???

THANK you in advance for your time and your nfos !!! :) :) :)
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by Other » 14/09/05, 04:46

Good evening, scanvenger
An engine of 3 liters of displacement swallows aproximately 250kg of air per hour and if this air and least wet it can represent from 2 to 3litres of water, without counting the water that produces the combustion of fuel, the engine s in good accomode it works even on days of heavy rain
So doping al, water that consumes on average 1 liter per hour is not this small surplus that will change everything in the internal oxidation of the engine, the oxidation is especially the engines that do not heat enough
who make small runs in cold weather or sleep in a garage. A car when it's done - 25 it's sleeping outside, if you put it in a heated garage it will rust, it keeps well frozen.
The rust is found especially on the cylinder bottom the camshaft the valve springs all that is in the lubricating oil because of the condensation of the water in the oil, it is rather rare to see the hot part of the cylinder rust or valves, unless the engine runs
once every 3 months.
As for the ceramic engines or rather ceramichrome a few years ago it was the great mode to replenish the cylinders of aircraft engines, now we try to go back, cylinder steel phosphor. Ceramic engines, if badly honed (that is to say it is necessary the batters at break-in) otherwise the segments are not placed and it consumes oil. In addition the lifespan of the pistons and fell to 500hours while the steel cylinders that makes it easy 1800heurs.
So the ceramic is not yet developed for the engines.
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by Christophe » 14/09/05, 13:29

BUT however I do not see any trace of successful tests on gasoline cars ....... is it because it does not work?


It all depends on what you mean by "walking" ... in terms of pollution control, it's quite spectacular all the same: https://www.econologie.com/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=321 ( on a comparative measurement between the ambient air in the garage and the exhaust gases, the latter are cleaner ... at least on the pollutants measured ...)

In fact, the spark-ignition engine requires more optimization than compression-ignition engines.

it has the AIR run on diesel, although the production time is low and does not allow to demonstrate an internal oxidation engines used (inconsistency or humbug?),


this is more than 4 (2001 start) that the tractor 1ers have been modified .... I recall that the combustion of a liter of fuel produces about 1 kilo of water vapor (without pantone!)


so I would like to test this live on my R5 gasoline that works for the moment very well, and it has that 60 000 km so I do not want to pin it for nothing, so uh, how do I do to find people who have already tested this with success or who are the in the Paris region ???


Doping with water will not hurt anything at all! An 1986 express renault works from 2002 like this: improved consumption of 20% and no smell at the exhaust (I put my nose on it ... as well as modern catalyzed injection ... except that they ... they smell of chlorine !!)

who are there in the Paris region ???


will ask on the forum "geographical union"
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