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Water injection in thermal engines and the famous "pantone engine". General informations. Press clippings and videos. Understanding and scientific explanations on the injection of water into engines: ideas for assemblies, studies, physico-chemical analyzes.
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by Janic » 23/11/15, 13:48

Others will talk about it better than me, but the goal is not to gain on fuel consumption, but to promote better fuel combustion like Pantone.
It is true that with the latest technologies of very high pressure, multipoint, stratified injection, etc ... the two techniques cited lose some of their interest, but remain valid for older models.
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by izentrop » 23/11/15, 17:17

Janic wrote:the proposed objective is not to gain on consumption, but to promote better fuel combustion
In other words, the main thing is to support the community;)
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by Obamot » 23/11/15, 17:25

Exnihiloest wrote:
izentrop wrote:... How do you make half a gas ??
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Do not confuse the coefficients of the molar proportions of the reactions with the molecules themselves.
If the fashion has changed and today we instead write "2H2O → 2H2 + O2" instead of "H2O → H2 + 1/2 O2", it's just a matter of formality.
The formulation H2O → H2 + 1/2 O2 used for decades and which means the same thing, is still perfectly accepted.

Precisely it's not exactly like that happens ...

You tell us here:

Exnihiloest wrote:"No system has ever been in equilibrium"

Of course it's wrong, and I'll say why.

This works / would work if there was no oxygen (I told you at the beginning ... oxy__gene) well ...

Why do we say O2 (oxygen), it's not a matter of formalism, it's because O1 (oxygen) "does not exist"(note the quotes) he is precisely the troublemaker"unstable"VS"balanced", he is so unstable that he immediately sticks or reacts or whatever you want (with" something else ") with whatever comes to hand ... So it's not so much that it is a question of formalism to write it but rather WHERE the reaction will go and what it will stick with (depending on the prerequisite factors).

If you take the case of H2O you have H + and H + and O- it is this polarity that will make the molecule react ... Because the two H + are not buddy, they stand at a distance .... And here ....

To go back to your conception of saying that no system would ever have been in equilibrium, and well O2 precisely (dioxygen) is in relative equilibrium (as long as) with respect to O1 [...] totally unstable oxygen. And it is the very principle of a system that is potentially in balance (otherwise it is a reaction in progress or whatever).

Henry Le Chatelier in his "Principle of Moderation" wrote:When external modifications to a physicochemical system in equilibrium cause evolution towards a new state of equilibrium, the evolution is opposed to the disturbances which caused it and moderates the effect.
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In this case, it works "two" by "two" but not "one" by "one" ...

Hum!

So the good answer is that if you add the electrons and the polarity you will see why there will never be an oxygen atom alone:

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Translation: (both halves = 2 halves of each reaction)

Which gives reason to Izentrop (as far as his last conclusion), there is no half-gas that holds! : Shock:

That's why 1 / 2 O2 has been abandoned, because it is according to what the reaction will give (as above) and not with respect to a "pseudo-formalism".

Let's see the acid-base equilibrium with polarity at the molecular level (dissociation of water):

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It's first year in physics / chemistry / biochemistry (I did not have Wikipedia as a teacher).

And believe me it was perfectly Einstein's area of ​​expertise! : Lol:

QED.

(And besides, it is better that it be so, because otherwise we would not exist ...)
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by Janic » 23/11/15, 18:07

In other words, the main thing is to support the community;)
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