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by LibresEnsemble » 26/11/04, 16:18

Hello everybody


Just to tell you that I have just sent an email to the two largest road transport networks
to inform them about the PMC and the peakoil ...

with the crisis they are going through and it's not over

and given their potential pressure on the government they may have ...

send them a little info on Pantone and the "peakoil" was too tempting :D

If you know road people ... do not hesitate to tell them about the system ... they are very supportive ...

the idea would also be to make tows to put on the windows of cars and trucks ...


>>> for the attention of econology

below what I sent ...
it's a little better than the previous one ...
tell me if necessary what I need to correct ...

Subject of the mail: news brulantes ....
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Message
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You want to make a media card

here's something to get things done ...
the following is a very important info and as you can see for yourself,
it's not a joke ... but very heavy ... very serious ...

Want to equip all your trucks with this ultra-simple and eco-friendly system will make things happen ...


here is an info you deserve ...

It's your turn

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PMC Pantone what is it?
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An ultra simple FREE system that divides by 4
fuel consumption and reduce 95% pollution.

The composition of this mixture is
- some fuel (ecological or standard)
- a lot of water up to 80%.

The overall consumption of the mixture is even lower than a 100% fuel configuration.

The production of green fuel is very expensive but this system allows to return to an equivalent or even higher profitability thanks to the addition of water with more 95% less polution.


How to make and use this system?
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You are a dentist, philosopher, or gardener ... Pantone is also made for you ... of a disconcerting simplicity.

Security ? no danger.



EXAMPLES OF REALIZATION
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on TRUCK
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http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone/usa/PMC4.htm

other examples (cars, lawnmowers, generators ...)
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http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone/FrancePMC.htm
http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone/realisat.../FrancePMC6.htm
http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone/realisat.../FrancePMC5.htm
http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone/realisat.../FrancePMC3.htm
http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone/realisat.../FrancePMC2.htm
http://quanthomme.free.fr/pantone/realisat.../FrancePMC1.htm


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Why act? because of peekoil
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"YOU TALK IN the newspapers on TV, on the radio ..."
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- http://www.radiofrance.fr/chaines/france-c...fusion_id=24958
- http://info.france3.fr/dossiers/monde/4862698-fr.php
- http://www.lexpress.presse.fr/info/economi....asp?ida=428814
- http://www.nouvelobs.com/articles/p2063/a241470.html
- <a href='http://www.france5.fr/cdanslair/006721/41/118312.cfm' target='_blank'>http://www.france5.fr/cdanslair/006721/41/118312.cfm</a>
- http://www.autocadre.com/Le-peak-oil-est-a...ve--news102.php

"PRO talk about it"
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http://www.lesvertsguebwiller.com/PETROLE%...%20la%20fin.htm

ASPO, an association founded by retirees of big oil companies ...
denouncing the overestimation of reserves whose production decline is inevitable ...
as you have already seen, followed by an increase in the price at the pump ...
http://www.peakoil.net

"Net folders"
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- http://www.transfert.net/a9643
- http://www.transfert.net/a9640


You know everything !
it's up to you!

and go to the free website "econologie.com"


ENGINEERS WILL RESPOND TO YOU ...
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Jean Christophe Martz - https://www.econologie.com/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=93 (download his 93-page dossier!)
Jean Louis Naudin - http://jlnlabs.imars.com/bingofuel/pmcjln.htm


AND A RESEARCHER (Jean Pierre Petit, former director of research at the CNRS)
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http://www.jp-petit.com/ENERGIES_DOUCES/mo...teur_a_eau1.htm


THANK YOU
AND GOOD CONTINUATION


Fred
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by Christophe » 26/11/04, 21:15

Just a few remarks about this part:

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PMC Pantone what is it?
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An ultra simple FREE system that allows you to divide by 4 -> I would say can significantly reduce consumption
fuel consumption and reduce pollution by 95%. -> and pollution, especially black smoke

The composition of this mixture is -> which mixture?
- some fuel (ecological or standard)
- a lot of water up to 80%.

We must not mix everything: either we talk about 100% Pantone or we talk about the doping of tractors, it is this last point that should interest the road ... so to reformulate the style to have a chance to be credible:
The system consists of an injection of steam superheated by the heat of the exhaust gases, resulting in lower consumption and pollution


The overall consumption of the mixture is even lower than a 100% fuel configuration.

Does not mean anything or I did not understand ..

The production of green fuel is very expensive but this system allows to return to an equivalent or even higher profitability thanks to the addition of water with more 95% less polution.

Can be Off Subject ... biofuels are not accessible to the road (for the moment) except diester mixed ... but a sentence of the type: In addition the system would make econologically profitable "clean" biofuels

Another sentence of the style: the system still needs R & D to be optimized in an industrial way would be not bad also finally I think ...
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by Christophe » 27/11/04, 16:56

By the way, I'm not called Jean Christophe ... But Christophe, really! Put "engineer report" instead of folder would be better too ...

Otherwise Jean Louis Naudin is not really in the coup (he is bcp + on his lifter and electronic assembly ...) .. on the other hand it is he who introduced the 1998 system in France (and yes already 6 years ) via his site .... in this sense it can be presented as the precursor of the system ...
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by maliceman » 30/11/04, 01:46

Hello, this is my 1er message and I must say for starters, that I find all this very interesting, especially for the green side of the thing, being myself very green in the soul ...
I had a little trouble understanding "The overall consumption of the mixture is even lower than a configuration 100% fuel: Does not mean anything or I did not understand ...", and then I said to myself: Of course, it's the consumption of the fuel itself that it's about ... I still feel that there is a little ambiguity in it ...
In any case, I write to propose the scenario of a film:
1- Despite technical clumsiness, excellent idea to contact the truckers! Bravo LibreEnsemble.
2- Let's phone, or write to 5 or 10 haulers, randomly in the directory, to inform them.
3- Statisticians will always have fun comparing the number of carriers in France and the number of us who participated in this campaign ... And deduce the total number of companies contacted (optional for the long version).
4 - Need a thread, there's one, road, who will want to know more! And who will ask you, for example, Clarifications, and more:
5- The Rovers are kicked at donf. They ask you to trade one of their old diesels.
6- With the help of good people well informed of your handyman and scientist, and in a surge of goodness and selflessness, you give them a vehicle that works not too bad, but which nevertheless can not roll again like the others (I guess maybe wrong that you must not dream anyway).
7- The truckers are still really impressed and the news spread like wildfire.
8 - By dreaming a little more, thanks to the indemnities that a company with good will granted you you manage to roll a 38Tonnes which makes its national tours at once.
9- The pressure is too big, the competition braille on all sides.
10- The big deaf, kings of conditioning that are the media, feel obliged to open an eye.
11- Slight malaise among oil companies when some popular media are interested a little too closely.
12 - After much controversy media, industrial, judicial and other, the pressure of public opinion is such that Christophe and his friends manage to roll several vehicles and begin to get rich (fortunately, they had only jeans holes to put).
13- The appalling machine to crush the oil industries is on its way. Christophe and his acolytes are courted by the aggressive multinational oil and car companies.
14- They hold on, but until when?
15- I stop there.
Congratulations to Christophe, aka econology and all those who advance the technique (100% Pantone that would be the top not?).
I'm going to warn some carriers ...
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by LibresEnsemble » 30/11/04, 17:55

Hi guys and women if there are any ...


Sorry for those few ambiguities ...

For the sentence "The overall consumption of the mixture is even lower than a 100% fuel configuration."


in fact I meant

For example

Where an engine that consumes 10l / 100 in a configuration 100% gasoil or gasoline (without pantone)

the same engine with the pantone system will "burn" 9l / 100 (gas oil + water or gasoline + water or rapeseed + water)

So much for enlightenment.

What you have to see is that the average consumer does not think "water vapor + fuel" ...
in the end, the user looks at how many liters of water and liters he has in his fuel tank.

he will understand better "mixture - water + fuel" (even if we do not mix the two in the same tank) that "vapor of water + fuel" and what he will note in the end it is an average conso of the together...

Here

I understand in any case all your remarks and I will make corrections.



That said the drivers are also mechanic ... so a little technique in an information email will not scare them ... but not too much ...

The ideas are there ... it's cool ...

You have to work in parallel on the system and on an information campaign

The system it works ... it is already that ... the taf of optimization I leave it well volontié to the ingested ... one can trust them.

For the com ... well if everyone does a little ... it is the mass effect that will eventually pay.
My example of mail is not perfect ... for those who take this initiative it will be necessary I always think to accompany the description of the system by a small recent info on (the peakoil, the increase of the fuels ...)

you tell me ... but they bother us with this peako .... I assure you ... it's far from a joke and this dear Pantone system ... can very well be one of the most serious answers to this future crisis ...

For those who don't know: http://www.lesvertsguebwiller.com/PETROLE%...%20la%20fin.htm

Voili voilou ...

Contrary to what you might think, I am naturally optimistic ...
Together we will get there ... and sooner or later by force of circumstances.


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by Christine » 01/12/04, 14:50

I totally agree that it takes communication to make the project known ... it's quite logical. But reading maliceman and LibresEnsemble post, I want to say "stop taking your head, guys :P "

FreeSet wrote: and what he will see in the end is an average conso of the whole ...



What the consumer sees above all is how many Euros he puts in for how many kilometers.

FreeSet wrote:That said the drivers are also mechanics ... so a little technique in an email information will not scare them ...


The drivers may be mechanics but the secretaries who receive the sons, a little less.

And then it is primarily business leaders who already have a lot of contraites and who do not necessarily want to roll their guys on unapproved gear. What may be true for a tractor rolling in the fields, painter, is not necessarily conceivable for a truck that is thousands of miles across borders and everything, and everything.

So: ok for a campaign of sons but do not make too many movies, you might be disappointed.
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by Christophe » 01/12/04, 21:24

I am rather in agreement with Christine ... except for the disappointment ... It is clear that in the short term all the truckers are not going to jump on the system with their eyes closed (I think they are much more interested and So ready to "invest" in the tax exemption of the GO ....) but in the medium term it will make them think .... especially if one of their competitor begins with "equip" ... The whole thing is convince ... the first!

But the truth WINS ALWAYS .. sooner or later ...
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by gil67 » 08/12/04, 12:40

hello, I just intervene to bring a mini precision. The vast majority of trucks are renewed every 2 years, in the form of a rental etc ... Basically they are either the property of a bank or ...
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