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by louphil » 13/09/05, 22:00

Well seen the report FR3, (thank you "econology" for the video)

I am afraid, however, that these pseudo reports are legion in times of crises. I thus could see (know more on which TV duck ...) an article of the same taste (in more serious anyway) concerning HVB ... which allowed TVspectors to conclude that it could work, but that it was still far from ready, so not for tomorrow .... The report dates from about fifteen or even 3 weeks ... I find that these reports are especially made to ignite the imagination of the citizen-cow- milk, at the same time as discrediting marginal initiatives ... Look at the dates of publication of articles on Chambrin in his time for example ... At what time elsewhere ??? Was it not in the 70s by chance, during the 1st oil shocks?

In my opinion, what is not ready, it is above all the way of taxing us (even if I have nothing against it) by means of cleaner and econological methods ...

Hoping to deceive me by excess of pessimism ...
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by Adrien » 13/09/05, 23:34

Otherwise the ultimate solution to all this: do like me, look for a donkey! definitely more fun to get around than his big car that goes wild (worse than after an onion pie, that is to say!).

and thank you RaStiScaR for having recorded the 19/20 report!
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by gegyx » 14/09/05, 11:04

Heard on France info this morning:

"A farmer dreams in front of his rapeseed fields, the day when people will come to feed themselves with fuel ... A Parisian newspaper reports that in Nantes sales of rapeseed oil have increased sharply ... The big drawback of rapeseed oil is that the TIPP is not levied ... This is illegal ... The controls will be reinforced ... The gendarmes will smell the characteristic smell of fried potato. "

Media and coercive bludgeoning begins.
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by Christophe » 14/09/05, 11:25

Well they come to stop the French oily while Germany has legalized this fuel
France is also outside the law with regard to European directives. Is that the country of human rights?

The movement is (I hope) too big and too advanced for him to hope to stop it ... unless, as usual to make examples well publicized ..... but if they do that, they risk a revolution !!

I think it is first of all farmers to become outlaws by already entering energy self-sufficiency by planting oilseeds on their economic fallows defined by the CAP (gradually killing EU agriculture ... at least the small)!
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by Superform » 14/09/05, 15:32

In the same thread, on channel, in the newspaper, report on someone we know well ... just Alain, Valenergol !!

he repeats what we already know, he was sentenced twice, for non payment of the tax, europe said yes, france said no, but i have the right because european law supersedes french law (to check...)

with all these reports, we can hope that it will make megalo politico industrio think?
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by Superform » 14/09/05, 18:22

Bis repetita ...

C in the air on France 5 right now, title "the most expensive road" with notably a report on ethanol in Brazil ...

strongly that something comes out !!

in addition there is a journalist who is well informed ... he must have passed through here ... as soon as I see his name I quote him!

I found it on the france 5 site :
Pierre-Olivier Savreux *

Journalist, Pierre-Olivier Savreux is head of the Investigation Department at Auto Plus.
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by gegyx » 15/09/05, 00:08

At work, everyone saw, heard, an article, an interview, a report on the latest announcements.
Plethora of comments. Tonight, we can say that the information has passed to France ...

I found the newspaper cited by France info this morning:

In the daily life of Sept 14 " Today in France ", (National edition of" Le Parisien "), there is three pages on the fact of the day: the French convert to clean cars.

Page 2: presentation - Villepin's commitment - 2 Csa polls: 1/3 of French people ready to buy a less greedy vehicle, and biofuels dethrone diesel (25 against 22%) in the choice of a new car.

Page 3: from Frankfurt, which model should you choose to drive green? the Stop & Start system, LPG, hybrid vehicles, natural gas, hydrogen - article: biofuel vehicles will be guaranteed for two years.

Page 4: they found solutions to consume less:
- With carpooling, we share the costs.
- The air motor of Guy negro (he hopes to start production in 2006….)
- It has been running on hydrogen for years. Dominique, an artisan of Vaucluse. an engine derived from the Pantone, 2 l water tank, doubled mileage with a full tank of petrol, pollution divided by 5; we are 400 in Vaucluse, to run on hydrogen ... (?!?).
- With rapeseed oil, I earn € 14 per tank. Increase in rapeseed and sunflower oil sales in supermarkets in the Nantes conurbation. Daniel, from Nantes, farmer's son, mix 30% oil with diesel; this marginal scheme is gaining an increasing number of followers; as if by chance, a rumor circulates saying that tests in Germany, on tractors show that the engines tire faster, it is false, I think that this must annoy the oil companies! At Nantes Customs, we do not ignore this practice and random checks have been put in place, the oil escapes the Tipp; "The fine corresponds to twice the amount of taxes evaded"; to spot offenders, you can smell the smell of frying. Yet motorists using this means, go out of hiding: Saturday in Nantes, a collective (the black sheep) organized an event: “oil does not pollute, motorists do a service to nature. What is needed, explains an organizer, is to develop this system, to promote it by taxing it less than petrol ”
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by caves » 15/09/05, 09:38

found on quantomeune photo of a David Dieulle who looks like david fr3
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/quanthommesuite/me...erindol2005.htm
on this same page which has a url for the stirling developed by M Guy Mausy?

hi gegyx

do you have some additional info on the dominique of vaucluse and its hydrogen;
400 engines already equipped? what discretion we have seen nothing circulating on the net!
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by Christophe » 15/09/05, 13:55

- The air motor of Guy negro (he hopes to start production in 2006….)


He said the same in 1995 for 1996 !!! How would you still believe it !! But hush otherwise he will call me again to threaten me with a defamation lawsuit!


- It has been running on hydrogen for years. Dominique, an artisan of Vaucluse. an engine derived from the Pantone, 2 l water tank, doubled mileage with a full tank of petrol, pollution divided by 5; we are 400 in Vaucluse, to run on hydrogen ... (?!?).


I don't believe it for a second !! How can a national newspaper be so taken in by such charlatans? But newspapers want to sell ... scientific facts hardly matter!

a rumor circulates saying that tests in Germany, on tractors show that the engines tire faster, it is false, I think that it must annoy the oil companies!


This is not a rumor and I speak about it on the site: https://www.econologie.com/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=219

the oil escapes from the Tipp; "The fine corresponds to twice the amount of the evaded taxes"; to identify offenders,


How many kilometers / consumption? All the counter I bet ...

collective (the black sheep) organized an event


Very good initiative !
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by louphil » 15/09/05, 22:07

Note: perhaps the download / recording of a program to come on September 30th. Mr JP Petit participates in a radio debate (I think on the subject concerned and certainly other energies) ... I found the info in his article concerning his reaction to the France3 report:
http://www.jp-petit.com/ENERGIES_DOUCES/no...t_petrolier.htm
If someone had the chance to receive and record it would be a good thing, Radio Grenouille, local establishment, may not be broadcast on the net ...

Also note that I sent him this email, still not seeing links to either "quanthomme" or "econologie":

Mr Small,

I just read the update of your article "Rapeseed oil, a new petroleum product".

Being one of your diligent readers, I am surprised that your article, which does not date from yesterday, however, does not contain a major link concerning the "Pantone system", and in particular towards the Quanthomme and Econology sites, which seem to me essential . Indeed it would perhaps be useful if your readers (and there are many) can have access to it, these abounding resources as much on renewable or marginal energies as on the "Pantone system" itself, which they have more than largely contributed to make known and evolve ...
Indeed, a number of individuals "work" on the system, each doing their "little kitchen" on their own equipment thanks to the feedback of others on a forum which is enriched day by day with new experiences ... and this, not only concerning the aforementioned system ...
For all intents and purposes, in case you are not aware of it, here are the links to the sites concerned:

http://quanthomme.free.fr/
https://www.econologie.com/
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